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[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But I’ll digress it doesn’t matter anymore.

Exactly. There is no ethical consumption.

The Internet that you're posting on was built on top of a military network intended to provide redundant communication in the event of a global thermonuclear war. The satellites that provide you with GPS were created in order to more accurately drop bombs and guide armies. The rockets that put them in space exist because of research into methods of delivering nuclear weapons.

Your smartphone likely contains components built by slave labor, you almost certainly consume food products resulting from child labor. Your clothing as well.

The world is built on all manner of immoral things. 'Stealing' information (which presupposes the idea that a person can own knowledge, which I disagree with) is incredibly mild.

On top of that, the advances in AI are happening independent of LLMs. The advances in machine learning that made LLMs possible apply to all kinds of different areas that have nothing to do with language, music, or art.

LLMs just happen to be the easiest kind of AI to train because humanity has spent millennia storing language in books and the Internet provides a massive amount of data as well.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 hours ago

The Internet that you're posting on was built on top of a military network intended to provide redundant communication in the event of a global thermonuclear war.

Responding to this part alone: that's not actually true.
The intent of arpanet, the direct predecessor to the Internet, was to make it easier for universities to use high powered computer resources located at national laboratories, as well as making it easier to distribute software updates. The person who initially pushed for it's creation wanted "an electronic commons open to all, 'the main and essential medium of informational interaction for governments, institutions, corporations, and individuals '". They secured funding for the initial computer science labratories, os research that underpin everything, and the foundation for the "INTERgalactic NETwork".

Arpa was, at the time, the advanced research project agency. They were under the DoD, but they filled a role closer to the NSF today.

In designing the system they referenced work done by people who were studying robust communication networks. At the time that meant the phone system and nuclear weapons. The research, however, was applicable to any unstable network, and so had particular interest to them because computers had terrible reliability and they wanted to not have to call people if they discovered they had turned off a computer halfway between New York and LA.

The closest thing it has to a cold war military objective is to help us win the research race and spite the Soviets. It can withstand a nuclear attack, but that's just because that's the easiest way to make it survive a farmer with a backhoe accidentally hitting a wire.