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Email ownership, I give up. (lemmy.today)

submitted 2 days ago by altphoto@lemmy.today to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

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I give up.

I tried left and right to try to install an email server so I could degoogle my life.

But therechnical barrier is thick and Google keeps adding more to it. Forget it. I can't even get thru the installation process much less trying to get my shit off Google.

I figure, I don't actually have any need for my email addresses. Just like my phone number. I never call anyone. I'm going to discourage my kids from using email at all. I'll remind everyone I know that I don't use email at every opportunity I get just like I remind people to not call me and that my phone number is not available.

Between spammers and Google, I just don't need this headache in my life. My mom is much less technically savvy than the average pet. So Google will just siphon her data and when the megabits are full then you just delete the old stuff.

You don't need it. No one will spend their life reading your emails when you're gone or watching your videos or listening to your recordings or viewing your photos. There's no need to worry about just deleting the pile of shit you've accumulated. I'm this done.

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[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I flagree that hosting email servers on residential IPs is a recipe for being filtered and blocked

Unless your ISP gives you a static address and agrees to change PTR record to your server address. Then it's no different than any other server on the internet. Obviously odds are that you're not getting one or if it's an option they'll likely charge more than VPS is going to cost you, but it's not unheard of.

But for the actual topic, I don't get the myth either. I've got a good old postfix+dovecot setup running and the only problem I have is that spam filtering isn't quite as good as with commercial providers, but the handful of trash coming trough is easy enough to take care of manually.

[–] Shimitar@downonthestreet.eu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I fully agree with you.

but i guess, from other replyies, people are just afraid somehow and have deep rooted fears about email and self hosting it. The people like you and me who have actually done it, understand that's not that impossible.

And like with anything you learn only doing it, not fearing it. Maybe don't switch your main account just from day 0 and see how it goes... :)

[–] IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

Obviously there's a ton in successful email hosting since it's not just configuring few services. Proper DNS-records and privilege controls are mandatory, you need to occasionally clear up your domain/IP from spamlists (specially at the start) and single mistake can ruin your DNS reputation quite quickly which then takes time to build back.

But it's still perfectly doable and, when you have proper knowledge on how the whole circus actually runs, not too difficult either. Only problem is that there's no longer money on just email hosting since cloud hosting offers much more than just emails for the price a small gamer can't just compete with. At least around here.