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[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 28 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Maybe optimize the LLM to run on less compute?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Or just realize that nobody fucking likes LLMs as much as the Captains of Industry want us to believe, and that the true power of this technical domain lies in more targeted and bespoke ML model generation and usage.

ML is good and enables - and has enabled - some genuine generational leaps in science and technology. But LLMs are such a fucking waste of the technology’s potential. Not to mention, I’m extremely irritated that (largely due to Nvidia cornering the market) everyone is super gung-ho about a digital approach which amounts to brute-forcing neural nets digitally with shitloads of memory and highly-parallel compute, when it’s obvious to anyone with more than a passing familiarity with electrical engineering that an analog approach is going to be FAR more efficient in terms of resource and energy usage.

[–] REDACTED@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Or just realize that nobody fucking likes LLMs as much as the Captains of Industry want us to believe

Funny, but it's actually a bit worse. People are literally falling in love with it and generally go nuts. This is not even getting into the whole "it's conscious". You're essentially living in a bubble and don't really know how bad it is. Don't look up how many use character.ai

EDIT: On a related note, it's slightly annoying that Lemmy converts links like.it, without me providing https://

[–] eleitl@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, for 4 and 8 bit quantization at least analog charge buckets or memristor-likes and analog multipliers would dramatically reduce substrate size, reduce power burn and speed up inference. Even better killer drones, here they come. Yay.

I mean… yeah, DARPA will probably be one of the first adopters of that stuff, it’s true. But DARPA is pretty much always a first adopter of any new tech, because they’re basically the research wing of the US military, and they have effectively infinite resources at their disposal (note: I am not debating whether or not that is a good thing here; simply stating that it is a thing). But just because they’ll likely do something military-ish with it first doesn’t mean that it’s a “bad” technology. The internet itself was, after all, initially a project of DARPA’s predecessor, ARPA, and was initially named “ARPAnet”.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

maybe this is personal preference

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] motruck@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Analog meaning think for yourself or what?

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Analog as in analog signals vs digital signals. Reductively: circuitry designed to operate in a continuously variable electrical domain, as opposed to circuitry designed to operate in a clocked binary domain.

Analog is (with a LOT of handwaving) way closer to how biological neural nets (that is, actual neurological tissue) operates. This is one of many domains where the exploration of biomimicry could yield some incredible advantages in a lot of areas.

[–] datendefekt@feddit.org 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry, Chinese LLM vendors without access to the newest hardware will take care of that.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

based,hopefully they use this to optimize local LLMS so i have higher tokens per second.

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Stop talking sense when has good sense ever been the solution of choice.

[–] Blackfeathr@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But everything's computer!

[–] dan1101@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If I was king they would have to run on 100% on-site solar and air cooling.

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 3 points 2 days ago

would be based