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[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 0 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree that the situation isn't treated with nuance, typically, by westerners. But in this case, this is neither particularly nuanced nor naïve - it's just a statement of fact that the parliament has voted repeatedly to extend martial law.

That doesn't mean Ukraine is a super-democratic country. It only means that it is the case that the government, made up of elected representatives (and yes, Ukraine banned 11 political parties for alleged Russian ties - one of them with ~10% of parliamentary seats - so the representativeness of the legislature is certainly debatable) has voted to not allow presidential elections until the war is over.

Obviously it'd take a much longer explanation to capture all of the relevant geopolitical context, but this is a factually accurate statement about what is happening, yes?

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Let me get this right, they purged the opposition and afterwards vote to mantain power? 😅

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 32 minutes ago)

They purged roughly 10% - 12% of the opposition by parliament seats, yeah - that means it is at least that much less democratic. I'm just stating facts here. This isn't a strong defense of the democratic values of Ukraine, just a statement that they aren't wholly undemocratic as suggested in the meme - it's misleading.