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X11 vs Wayland (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 18 hours ago by pixeldaemon@sh.itjust.works to c/linux@lemmy.ml

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What's the difference for a real user between using X11 or Wayland nowdays? I haven't found anything useful on the internet, so I'm asking you. Internet articles on the topic (and about WMs too) seem to be advertising slop since they explain anything but the real things. Also, if anyone used the XLibre fork, I would love to hear about your experience with it.

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[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 40 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

As some general advice: If you don't know the specifics, just go with your Linux distribution's defaults. They probably have this figured out for you. Wayland is the more modern approach. We had a long transitioning period and some things didn't work for a while or were missing. I'd say it's ready by now. And if your distro maintainers also think it's time to supersede the old X server, it probably is.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago (4 children)

We had a long transitioning period and some things didn’t work for a while or were missing. I’d say it’s ready by now.

Do things like xdotool and xinput still work?

[–] edinbruh@feddit.it 9 points 11 hours ago

Uinput and libinput are the proper tools and they both work.

Also, the keyboard configuration is done with xkb

[–] juipeltje@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

There's ydotool

[–] fozid@feddit.uk 6 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The x is the clue in those programs. They are tools to interact with x11. There will be tools to interact with Wayland, or there will be hacks to get x programs to sort of work with Wayland.

[–] OwOarchist@pawb.social 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

There will be tools to interact with Wayland

I don't really like the hypothetical sound of this.

xdotool is essential for keeping some of my basic hardware usable.

(Yeah ... more and more, I think I'm going to be a very late adopter of Wayland. I was planning on Debian Stable for my next install anyway...)

[–] Eat_Your_Paisley@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

Which is on Wayland

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago

xdotool is essential for keeping some of my basic hardware usable.

That's a good sign that you may not want to upgrade to Wayland on that hardware.

[–] makeshift0546@lemmy.today 3 points 12 hours ago

Nope. But you can find ydotool 🙄