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I feel swipe to type should be an option on laptops. Using keys to type is slow compared to swiping across alphabets. Remove the physical keyboard and put a 6" to 10" lcd with touch input on it.

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[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

No, complete opposite.

[–] theKalash@feddit.ch 17 points 1 year ago

Using keys to type is slow compared to swiping across alphabets

You'd have to be really bad at typing for that to be true.

[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Somebody, take away that person's phone so that he/she won't give new stupid ideas to tech giants

[–] HamSwagwich@showeq.com 11 points 1 year ago

Tell us you don't know how to type without telling us you don't know how to type

I love swipe gestures on the phone and use it almost exclusively and I'm pretty fast with it... but in no world is it even close to the speed of a keyboard.

[–] kava@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How old are you out of curiosity? I read somewhere that typing speed had steadily been increasing in the newer generations until somewhere around 1995-2000 and then afterwards typing speed started going down again.

I find it fascinating. I grew up playing World of Walmart and Runescape (and later on League of Legends when it came out) so typing quickly was sort of a necessary learned behavior. That along with being online all the time either through MySpace / AIM / MSN Messenger / reddit (later on Facebook)..

These days kids just don't have access to the computer like my generation did. My dad would go to garage sales and impulsively buy old computers. I would take them apart and put them together. Would install a different distro of Linux every week. All from the age of 11~12

Didn't know wtf I was doing but over time you learn.

I feel bad for kids these days. They're not growing up with desktop PCs. They're growing up with tablets and smartphones. They will always be used to these closed down operating systems and never truly understand the mechanics of how an OS works.

To answer your question - no. Typing on a keyboard is by far my favorite way to get down information. I can peak around 160wpm and average around 130wpm give or take 20wpm depending on density of text. I can't get anywhere close on the phone. Peak around 90wpm average like 70wpm.

[–] TitanLaGrange@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I grew up playing World of Walmart

Me too! Good memories. It was better before they nerfed the produce department though.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

I touch type, so no

[–] Durotar@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How can one finger be faster than 8? At least I use 8 + one of the thumbs to press the space button.

[–] markr@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You assume the op knows how to use more than one finger to type.

[–] small44@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even with one finger ,it should be faster

[–] wjrii@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

I don't properly touch type. I have pretty good muscle memory for a standard qwerty, but typing is still very much a hand-eye coordination exercise for me. I can do the standard transcription typing tests at about 50 wpm, and compose or type from memory at maybe 70ish. I don't hate swiping, and it's much better than thumb-mushing for polysyllabic words, but I'm nowhere close to even my modest typing speeds on a proper keyboard.

[–] Saturdaycat@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

No, and if I have to get some real writing done on my phone I connect the BT keyboard I've been using since 2011

[–] BrokebackHampton@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Welp, that's certainly an opinion

[–] redders@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Swiping is nice and all, even though you rarely write a whole sentence without it getting a word wrong and what you wrote not even being a suggestion, but it's nowhere near the speed of typing.

Unless you're doing that only with your thumb as well?

[–] Smokeydope@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

No, could never get used to the Swype thing. My fat fingers constantly mispell thank god for autocorrect. If they ever come out with a blackberry like smartphone with physical keys I am all for it. Doesn't help that I've been a PC guy my whole life and know the QWERTY keyboard like the back of my hand. I somehow have even developed my own typing technique that beats home-rowers in speed.

[–] Basilisk@mtgzone.com 4 points 1 year ago

Sweetie seems fair right up until I needed to go back and reevaluate everything I've said and change half the words because the store system has made it's own decisions about what I've said.

(Swype seems fast right up until I need to go back and reevaluate everything I've said and change half the words because the Swype system has made its own decisions about what I've said.)

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'd like to see the average user on a Swipe keyboard beat me typing on a real computer keyboard.

Interested in friendly competiton? Take the typing test and compare your results!

Typing Test: https://www.typingtest.com/

My Results:

Test Type: Medium

Two baselines performed, third test is the result.

Words Per Minute: 120 wpm net speed (123 wpm x 97% accuracy = 120 wpm)

Screenshot of results: https://i.postimg.cc/VNCJT1nX/artifact.png

Edit to Add:

I selected "Medium" because that seemed like just enough difficulty and word variety compared to the "Hard" mode. Most average users should not be typing text with much more complexity often, so Medium seems best.

Some of the skill might be transferrable. My sister has been on iPhone for years and gets 120 wpm on monkeytype with predictive text on. For comparison, she gets 110 on a normal chiclet keyboard.

[–] TheInsane42@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I hate swiping. I'm typing this on my tablet with Hacker's keyboard (the old one, with a full US keyboard) and I miss the nechanical feedback. At least the keys are where they should be, kinda.

To be honest, I type loads behind the PC with a real keyboard (DasKeyboard) and almost never on mobile.

[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

I was an early adopter of Swype and I've been using it for ages. I can probably hit 25-30 wpm with it on a good day. An average typist will hit at least 60 wpm and I can get over 100.

In addition, Swype is just more work than typing. Making tiny motions that require fine motor control is a lot more tiring than the broad movements needed on a keyboard.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Not at all.

Honestly, if you think one finger swiping is faster and better than ten fingers on a keyboard I would suggest you spend some time leaning to type.

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's a really interesting observation. I totally agree, if you're used to an input method and very proficient with it, why can't use it on the laptop?

I'm sure there's going to be lots of conversation about the plateau input speeds of various methods, but it's down to the user. If you know swiping, that should be your go-to why not.

With foldable tablets becoming more and more powerful, I totally see your input methodology working for computers

[–] Nighed@sffa.community 2 points 1 year ago

Not sure why you are being downvoted, choice is good.

I assume that the built in windows "tablet mode" keyboard doesn't support swiping? There is probably some stupid software patent blocking it...

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

TIL people actually use, and like, swipe typing.

I much prefer real keys I can feel being pressed. I don't even know how swiping would be faster unless you just can't type. In which case: learn home row, ffs.

[–] nal@lib.lgbt 3 points 1 year ago

I've use swype on mobile for probably about a decade. I find it's way faster than clicking individual keys on a touchscreen. but to think it would be faster than a physical keyboard is wild to me!

My partner and my mom both use swipe, I guess I thought it was more common. Meanwhile I would rather walk over to my computer and use a desktop version if possible if it's anything more than a sentence here and there.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

It's only slower to you because you haven't learned how to type properly. If you sat down and learned, you'd be typing on a keyboard much faster than you swipe on your phone. Much less typos, too.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I actually have used swipe for years, and there's no way I could type as fast or as accurate as I can with a keyboard. Specifically accurate. I had to go back and correct four words in this post.

[–] LinusWorks4Mo@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

anything longer than a sentence is an absolute grind on the phone

[–] kinttach@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I doubt swiping is faster than touch typing but I get what you mean. Sometimes you just want to swipe on a physical keyboard or Ctrl-F something in the real world.

[–] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Hell no. I find phone texting way worse, even when swiping. I honestly don't know how slow you're typing that you find this faster. 2 finger technique while looking at the keys?

[–] Moobythegoldensock@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

No, it’s way slower. More likely you just can’t type.