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[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 275 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Microsoft really needs an antitrust smackdown with their repeated behavior.

[–] PHLAK@lemmy.world 155 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So does Google though if we're being honest.

[–] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago

Microsoft saying “stop using Google” is actually totally fine with me.

But only if they’re saying “go get Firefox.”

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Yes they do!

[–] MattTheTekie@lemmy.test72.eu.org 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That didn't work in the 90s.

[–] hoshikarakitaridia@sh.itjust.works 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Kuduos to you doing your HW. :)

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[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (8 children)

In retrospect, DoJ didn't go far enough back then and ignored Microsoft's anti-competitive behavior with BeOS.

[–] chaogomu@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Part of it was Reagan massively weakened antitrust law after Ma Bell was broken up.

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[–] AbsolutelyNotCats@lemdro.id 84 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just a reminder that if you're using Windows, it's not your property but Microsoft's one

[–] lustrum@sh.itjust.works 29 points 1 year ago

Right but licenses for pro are £200 RRP.

Don't then beg me to use your services, just fuck off and let me use Windows how I want

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (19 children)

Nothing Microsoft does is good. Nothing google does is good.

Choose an alternative that values you.

[–] KeyserSoze61@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I don’t even value me, no corporation gives a crap. They want you and your recurrent income.

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[–] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

Linux and Firefox with uBlock Origin.

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[–] query@lemm.ee 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There needs to be a legally mandated option to turn off all recommendations and tracking, and to require consent to enable it in the first place.

[–] ra1d3n@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

So pretty much just an extension of GDPR. Sounds good.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or the courts should force MS to split off into an os company, an online services company, an office productivity software company, and a gaming company.

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[–] Phen@lemmy.eco.br 61 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I've been using windows for nearly as long as it has existed and I used to always be happy with updates. Even windows vista, despite all its problem, still felt like an upgrade compared to xp.

Then windows 8 started changing things in a direction I was not happy with, but at the same time it also had improvements over win7. Windows 10 repeated that with plenty of bad things but still overshadowed by massive improvements in many areas.

At this point windows was at its peak in some areas, like stability (when was the last time you saw a BSOD without actual faulty hardware?) and usability. Multiple Desktops, WSL2, the new Terminal...so many great things added in win10 updates.

And then comes win11 and shits at everything. Removed a ton of core features that didn't need removing, broke a lot of compatibility with older stuff (something that Microsoft used to care deeply about) and adds... Nothing. It's been quite a while since win11 released and there's still nothing I can point at and say it does better than win10.

If you're going to do all sorts of stuff with my data you should at least try to make me happy with your product in exchange, not make me dread using it every time.

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[–] hiramfromthechi@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As usual, it's only Big Tech that's able to compete with Big Tech. They all love to throw their weight around when they can, and join forces when it's convenient.

Neither corporation should be defended or trusted with your data.

The only thing that's kinda funny here is the irony of Microsoft tryna poach Chrome users into their own... wait for it... Chromium-based browser.

[–] XaeroDegreaz@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Sometimes Microsoft is such a turd... I've seen this thing posted several times, however I didn't see the fix in this thread, so I'll post it here. Sorry, I couldn't find the Lemmy post that had the information on how to remove it, but I found one on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/computerviruses/comments/149x25h/bgaupsell_what_is_this_bing_popup/jp896s0

It's basically a combination registry changes, and also directory modifications to prevent writing to the directory where BGAUpsell.exe resides.

It's pretty shitty we have to do this. Please, hold all your "switch to Linux" comments, because they are stupid, and superfluous; I see that dumb shit all the time since I came to Lemmy.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago (16 children)

Finally, a person with an actual voice. I feel like the, "Switch to Linux," don't realize they sound like, "Just get an iPhone people." To me it all sounds like, "well if you don't like being in this country then just leave."

Linux is not the answer for all people the same as switching to an iPhone should never just be the answer.

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[–] Madex@lemm.ee 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well Windows 11 got me to use arch, for which I use btw

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[–] Biscuit303@reddthat.com 47 points 1 year ago

Know how to tell which Lemmy users are running Linux? Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[–] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I installed Pop OS on my laptop since it's pretty gaming friendly. Between that and the Steam Deck, Windows 10 might be my last version of Windows for personal use.

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[–] BluDood@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I got that popup the other day. I'm this close to switching to Linux

[–] berrodeguarana@lemmy.eco.br 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is the epitome of what the Linux community loves to read on the internet. Got any distros in mind?

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[–] Madex@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ah mate, 2 months in going full endeavour OS, not looked back. Not perfect, but very close to now and all my devices run it, its amazing.

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[–] dansity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I did 2 months ago. The OS is truly awsome but many many software are just inferior to the windows version. For example there is no proper pdf reader that can sign a pdf and add or remove a page. You have to do it in two separate software or with a CLI application. I'm a daily anydesk user, I have license as well, their console is broken on ubuntu (or just gnome, not sure). I had to weed out certain things from gnome from a javascript file so I can use my PC while anydesk running. So depending on what you want to do it can be a very good experience or a borderline hell trying to replace your basic software with something worse. I will not give up at this point and I stand by it it is not linux's fault, however you are not just using an OS but many software on that said OS and many of those software will suck. Fortunately things like Photoshop no longer an issue as you have Photopea in the web browser. Web3 is really helping linux out.

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[–] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Pretty impressed at just how many notifications, popups and systems MS creates to continually try and funnel you into bing. At some point it moves past being annoying and now I'm just surprised at their tenacity / endurance

[–] viperex@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

You're not going to make me feel bad for Google

[–] UnPassive@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Last weekend I talked my wife into trying Linux on her desktop on an extra SSD I had, she loves it. Loves that she can customize everything, says it's faster (especially boot time), we put it on her laptop last night

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[–] RealAirBoon@lemmynsfw.com 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is literally your OS's creator adding a backdoor, it could be anything bit they dont seem to care to do anything other than adware.

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[–] Unkend@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

Just install Linux and be done with them.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A malware company using malware practices. Nothing to see here, gents.

[–] skymtf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I swear windows keeps getting worse, I have switched to MacOS 6 years ago and switched to Linux 3 years ago. I seriously never miss windows

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[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Microsoft is using malware-like pop-ups in Windows 11 to get people to ditch Google for malicious google copycat Bing+Edge

[–] Kerrigor@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

Joke's on them, I switched. To Firefox

[–] TheMorningStar@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe it's because I disable things and go through the settings with a fine tooth comb after a fresh install but I never see this stuff. Not discounting others' experiences either. Can't imagine being inundated with this stuff like some are claiming they are.

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[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I'm never installing windows 11.

I'm switching to full time Linux after Windows 10 becomes 100% obsolete.

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[–] CharlestonChewbacca@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (14 children)

How are you guys seeing this? I constantly hear these complaints but never see it myself.

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[–] Abnorc@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Microsoft loves popups. It feels like it is at least a few times that MS office puts a pop up in front of some button that I’m going to click to tell me about a new feature that I won’t use. Admittedly, I don’t know how to tell users about new features in a better way, but annoying users can’t be right.

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[–] elrik@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm not sure how this is different from Google pushing popups in every Google app to switch to Chrome.

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[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Microsoft is using malware-like Windows 11

Removed fluff

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