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[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Meta isn't going to ban these groups because it drives engagement on their platform. Law enforcement knows that these people are organizing because a number of them are part of the groups. The justice department inst doing anything likely on the premise of freedom of speech.

Low information people get their "news" from Facebook. Meta's algorithms have repeatedly been caugh promoting this sort of content because it drives engagement. This ain't looking good.

[–] Lantern@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’d say having these groups coordinate in a platform where government officials are able to gain easy access is better than banning them and forcing them to move to more secure methods of communication.

With that being said, I do think most social media (even Lemmy) could do a better job at vetting what content is recommended to or seen by users.

Mandatory disclaimer: I in no way support these groups or their beliefs.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’d say having these groups coordinate in a platform where government officials are able to gain easy access is better than banning them and forcing them to move to more secure methods of communication

It's not, because extremism spreads like herpes. Making these platforms more accessible to government officials also makes them more accessible to vulnerable, stupid people -- and there's 1000 of them for every 1 fed who wants to stop a terrorist attack.

Also, the people at the core of these groups are absolutely aware of secure communication. The Facebook page might say "Rally for Freedom, 2A welcome" but behind that curtain, human dogshit are brainstorming things like "how can we get counter protesters killed".

As dumb as most of the far-right is, very few are stupid enough to plan crimes and conspiracies on Facebook.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The ones who are stupid enough to publicly plan an attack are still being arrested for publicly planning Jan. 6 on that Nazi Twitter. I mean, nowadays Twitter is Nazi Twitter, but at the time it wasn't, they used that other thing.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

It catches the deeply stupid, but not the ones blessed with 3 braincells. Even the ones struggling by on 2 will learn from those mistakes.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

But but Congress banend Tik Tok, didn't that fix it?

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ah god I was just talking about this when someone asked what happened to QAnon.

Its still here, its a connected network of descendants and adherents, and I guarantee most of these groups mostly believe in QAnon nonsense.

[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

"What if instead of convincing gullible people to buy healing crystals, magic water and psychic services, we used those techniques to make them hate minorities?".

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

And believe that God himself has ordained Trump as his anointed President and all who stand against him are terrorist child rapists, all the evidence is in Hilary's laptop, or Hunter's laptop!

Still blows my mind that Matt Gaetz, only barely less of a QAnoner than Bobert and ... MTG... Gaetz actually literally paid for and trafficked a minor for sexual reasons, and somehow he isnt in jail.

Bleck.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay now if we get the pigs from the previous post to chase the extremist groups then that's a win win! But if the cops are part of the extremist groups, then we're screwed.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

if the cops are part of the extremist groups

Oh boy do I have some shocking info for you

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

I said if so I'm covered either way. I have family in the pig sty....so at least some cops are just oiky cute little buggers. But a pig is a pig is a pig gotta pig.

Yesterday on my way to work as usual everyone was slowly crawling to the 20mph sign by the nearby school. But no cop. But then eventually down the road the cop had caught somebody.

So basically we all gathered to vote to borrow a cop from another precinct just so he can catch us going 25 or 23 near a school. And you gotta watch it. It's basically a permanent fear mongering illegal check point. Can't the fucker go stop people at the qwickee Mart or something at least one day of the week?

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I don't understand. We banned Tik Tok so isn't social media fixed now?

[–] credo@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago
[–] applepie@kbin.social -3 points 6 months ago

Karens getting better at organizing?