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[–] Strit@lemmy.linuxuserspace.show 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why are everyone suddenly aware that Neochat is unmaintained. I mean, the last commit was 3 years ago and the last release alsmost 4 years ago. Just because the git repository got archived on a date does not mean that it was maintained up to that point.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Most people aren't going around checking the commit history on every piece of software they use. The git repository being archived made the Linux news rounds, so now a bunch of people are newly aware. It's not complicated.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

How does that make it dead?

Do they just need to update it for the sake of updating it?

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Libraries and APIs are a moving target. Eventually it won't run on modern systems anymore without modification.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but if it hasn't reached that point then is it really dead?

Edit: Instead of downvoting me, consider this. What if the only update this program receives in years is one to make sure its still compatible with the libraries and APIs you refer to? Would that make it alive, or dead?

It seems like you guys are advocating for updating just for the sake of updating, also bandwagoning a bit.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 11 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Neofetch is literally a bash script. There aren't any libraries or APIs it depends on, and there is basically no chance of it not working in the future. Some people just like to try and sound smart.

The actual problem with Neofetch is that it's not being updated with new ASCII art for new distros, and not adding new options to show things like a line for display server or other things some people might be interested in. It's just getting out of date in regular boring ways.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

That's kind of exactly what I was thinking.

Thanks for the clarification.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Apparently it doesn't work right on ARM systems or something

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I have a Raspberry Pi. It works just fine.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think it's on ampere iirc

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Uh huh. You think that some cloud computing processor just randomly can't run a bash script? What, does the uname command not work on their processors or something? That would cause problems a lot worse than just Neofetch not working. I obviously don't have one laying around to check, but I find that highly unlikely.

[–] pipe01@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

I dunno, just heard it somewhere

[–] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

I don't get people being worried about an offline application designed to run one shot as the current user not receiving updates. I do get maintainers dropping the package from package repos now that it is officially archived though...

[–] Kristof12@lemmy.ml 19 points 6 months ago

Now fastfetch is my new friend

[–] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 19 points 6 months ago

number 4 will shock you!!1

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 17 points 6 months ago

Neofetch is only dead if y'all let it die. Same as Hexchat.

[–] potkulautapaprika@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 months ago

I had no idea ppl actually cared about any fetches, not like it stopped working though. Just a guess but it'll work for a good while, because it's a damn fetch script:D

[–] ipacialsection@startrek.website 9 points 6 months ago

Wasn't screenfetch the thing neofetch was supposed to replace? Apparently it has more recent development activity (5 months ago), anyway...

[–] KindaABigDyl@programming.dev 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I've been using a custom version of paleofetch for NixOS for a while, but I decided to write my own clone of neofetch in Rust when I heard about the archival just for fun.

It has (or I suppose will have) parity with everything neofetch can output, supports dynamic plugins, is super fast bc compiled, and looks up information using asynchronous fetches. It's configurable via a config file (JSON) to choose what you want to show (I think this is better than using CLI options for this kind of app).

I have the app's framework/architecture up and running, I just need to finish implementing the rest of the data lookup and add more distro logos.

Once I get the data lookup feature complete, I'll make the repo public so people can add their distros' logos and use it, but I'm treating this as more of a pet project, so I doubt people will be that interested in using/contributing since plenty of other fetch programs exist, so I don't care if it lives or dies; it's just fun to make things :)

Tenatively named fetch-rs, but I'm sure something like that already exists.

[–] CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I tried fastfetch which was very fast, but didn't work correctly for me. It told me I had 16 flatpaks installed, but I don't even have flatpak! On another preset it gave the wrong number of pacman packages installed. The coloured bars also rendered with visible seams in between because it uses characters instead of colouring the background. It also didn't show my terminal font at all. I can't open issues because I didn't bother to activate 2fa on my github account. I ended up writing a simple fetch for fun, it shows pacman and rust packages, learned a few things about terminal escape codes.

[–] nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

[...] I didn't bother to activate 2fa on my github account. I ended up writing a simple fetch for fun, ...

I'm not judging, but reading those two lines back to back is pretty funny.

Also good to know what causes those seams. I've noticed it in some consoles, but never bothered to check why exactly that is.

[–] CsXGF8uzUAOh6fqV@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I guess that is pretty funny, didn't notice it while writing lol. When it comes to those seams, I think it depends on your font whether it will have seams or not. Colouring the background is more consistent in my experience.

[–] sunoc@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)
[–] luap@awful.systems 3 points 6 months ago

repo is archived as well, since they're both Dylan Araps, and it appears he's opted to quit programming.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago

pfetch gang

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 6 months ago

Pipe it with curl

[–] qui@lemmy.zip 3 points 6 months ago

If you are using Windows, you can use winfetch.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 1 points 6 months ago