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Seen a lot of posts on Lemmy with vegan-adjacent sentiments but the comments are typically very critical of vegan ideas, even when they don't come from vegans themselves. Why is this topic in particular so polarising on the internet? Especially since unlike politics for example, it seems like people don't really get upset by it IRL

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[–] BugleFingers@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I don't mind vegans, or that lifestyle, at all. What I do mind is people who are overtly (and possibly aggressive) in presenting a lifestyle that the feel is "right". Unfortunately there's a stereo type with vegans being that way.

Veganism is a big lifestyle choice and the difference to vegetarian is the avoidance of near all animal products if and when possible. Not just in regards to eating meat, but things like a leather wallet too.

Someone has to be careful and on top of their diet and dietary needs to be vegan and properly nourished (even omnivorous people are subject to this malnutrition mind you).

I have some personal differences in views to vegans in regards to the consumption of meat, but rather similar views in how it's obtained. I do think generally the mass production and lifestyle is not morally correct for the animals. However I would also say humans are naturally omnivorous and eating meat is something that not only is built into our diet but what gave us a fundamental evolutionary advantages.

Animals eat animals and humans are animals. Though if we are sentient enough and empathetic enough creatures we should at least provide a decent life for the animals and utilize all we can so as not so waste them.

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[–] Lhianna@feddit.de 6 points 6 months ago (5 children)

I have no issues with veganism but I do have issues with being attacked because I'm not vegan. I've been attacked for using cow milk even after explaining that I can't use plant milk because of sensory issues.

Funnily enough, just like you said, I know vegans IRL who would never behave that way and of course I accommodate their dietary choices when I'm in charge of food.

I think it's mostly an Internet thing when you just see the loudest minority instead of the more quiet majority.

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[–] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Because it's the easiest way to avoid having to consider changing opinions and behaviors

[–] mortemtyrannis@lemmy.ml 6 points 6 months ago

People don’t like to have deeply held beliefs challenged and even less so like to be told they are a bad person for eating certain types of food.

[–] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I personally don’t care if people want to be vegan and sometimes I’ll eat vegan food. For me though, on the whole, I find vegan food unappealing. It usually involves compromises and doesn’t taste that great.

Additionally, I did eat in a house of vegetarians for about 10 months once. I ate meat outside the house on occasion, but mostly ate vegetarian. It was really hard on my stomach. After meals, I would usually have crazy gas. It did improve over time, but always was an issue for me.

For these reasons, I don’t prefer veganism or vegetarianism. It’s okay if you do though.

Edit: for vegans wondering why they’re hated, I think the downvotes to this comment summarize it. Above I’ve expressed a view perfectly tolerant of veganism. I’ve even tried some of it myself, but don’t find it appealing. Rather than just accept that someone else has a different dietary preference than you, you shit on them. If you want to be tolerated, be tolerant.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (9 children)

It's the fandom mostly. I like using Linux but I don't think you are immoral for using windows. Rick and Morty is funny but I don't think Rick is someone to take any advice from. CrossFit seems to work for most people who stick with it but it is one of many options. I won't apologize for being an atheist but I don't think you are stupid for not being one.

The problem with Veganism is the problem with monotheism. There is one proper way to live and all the others are wrong and awful.

That and the lying. I won't deny that there are farmers who abuse their animals, that is a problem that can be dealt with through the legal system, but you can't sell me a sack of lies claiming that I abused the cows I milked growing up. Because I know I didn't.

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[–] livus@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago

Well it's like the old joke says,

Q: how do you know someone's a vegan?

A: OH, THEY'LL TELL YOU.

Seriously tho I don't have a problem with them unless they start saying there's no difference betwern killing an animal and torturing it.

[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

No one likes being criticized and labeled a monster by an ignorant prick. They way too frequently act like every egg comes from a half zombie chicken that's kept in a little box and tortured just for fun, or that a cow couldn't possibly end up in a cheeseburger after living its best life. Factory farming is bad for lots of reasons, but it's not characteristic of the entire industry.

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[–] waz@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My personal experience: Trying to find a restaurant that has vegan friendly options isn't always easy, and used to be much harder. That would make trying to find somewhere to eat as a group much more tedious if someone was vegan. I don't think anyone had issue with the person being a vegan, I think they just didn't like eating at the same two restaurants over and over.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You could do what I do and just don't eat when you go out. I did the same before I went vegetarian. Food is fucking stupid I'd rather just hang out and tell jokes.

You can also cheat. Reducing your meat intake some is better than nothing.

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