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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 50 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Prior to the Liberals coming to power Ottawa was responsible for about seven per cent of the money spent on reducing homelessness, a number that rose only to 14 per cent with all the new money. Most of the money spent on reducing homelessness was spent by provincial and municipal governments.

This is the most important take away.

The Liberal government doubled their funding, but it's the provinces and municipalities who are responsible for spending it in ways that help the homeless.

Any failings are on them, and the headline makes it seem like Liberals are at fault.

[–] HikingVet@lemmy.ca 25 points 5 months ago

Well, that is normal for natpo.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 46 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The PBO found that the program had paid for 17,849 people to find housing placements and for an additional 5,399 people to find emergency housing

So the conclusion is homelessness has risen, but it would be worse without the money.

[–] canis_majoris@lemmy.ca 39 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but it's NatPo, so you have to have some conservative angle about how spending money on social issues is literally the devil.

[–] DerisionConsulting@lemmy.ca 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

They only think that spending public money on social issues is literally the devil.

I thought that I've seen Natpo take money from the rich to post ads disguised as articles about how good those rich people are for donating to things, but it was hosted content from other "Post Media" outlets. So, it's still basically them, just not them-them.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"government spending deemed useless as corporate greed exceeds government increases"

Conservatives everywhere: "LOOK SEE I TOLD YOU IT NEVER WORKS"

[–] applepie@kbin.social -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where did they money go tho?

Spending and nothing to show for it what we in the industry would call "corruption"

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nice to know your industry relies on spinning statistics in favor of corporations, when said corporations are responsible for the issues in the first place.

You can increase government social programs by 30% but if cost of living increases 50%, guess what does fuck-all.

You're blaming the wrong group here.

[–] applepie@kbin.social -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

my industry is taxpaying, 🀑

cheers.

[–] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Lmao "my industry pays almost nothing in taxes when compared to it's profits"

Like that says anything other than "look at me I'm a piece of shit with no argument"

[–] applepie@kbin.social -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you are the one who did NOT address my comments. where did the money go, boy? say it!

as for me, i am a wage slave who pays taxes that get misappropriated by the corrupt regime.

[–] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

as for me, i am a wage slave who pays taxes that get misappropriated by the corrupt regime.

You sound like an orange asshole supporter.

[–] applepie@kbin.social -2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Your comment is more reflecting of your reading comprehension ability more than anything

With that being said... Nobody has yet to answer where the money gone and why there is nothing to show for it. So far we only got to accusing me of being a trump supporter lol

Which can be easily confirmed by checking my comment history.

Are you lazy or a bad faith actor?

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Conservatives: "Hold my beer!"

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how many years of Cons in power it's going to take before people who switched to vote for them realize that the Cons won't do jack shit about the affordability crisis either.

[–] Megaman_EXE@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

Based on Canadian voting history, we'll flip flop between the conservatives and liberals until the end of time unless some kind of voting reform comes into place. The liberals were supposed to do that but didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Canadian_federal_general_elections

I really wish we had some kind of ranked ballot system. I would rather vote for a third party, but even then, I question how much that would ultimately help. I feel like the people who get into positions of power often don't prioritize the general population, but that's my personal bias, and I have no idea what the actual statistics are on that.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Canada needs a new political party to really see a significant change.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

It's not the parties that are the issue, it's the people.

If we want affordable housing, we need to absolutely tank home values, by as much as 80-90% in some markets.

Most people simply won't vote for a party or a policy that does that, because most people (and especially most voters) own their home and aren't willing to give away literally hundreds of thousands (or in some case millions) of dollars even if it helps other people.

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 13 points 5 months ago

No shit, its either you have 3k a month to spend on a basement or you're living in a tent.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What would the homeless numbers be without a plan to reduce it? When NatPo's done with its crystal ball, can we use it for other things? What would (US Republican-tied) Chatham Asset Management suggest as a better plan? Declare homelessness illegal and house people in jails for profit?

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

Thats the end goal here, yes.

[–] applepie@kbin.social 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you look how much money major US cities spend on homeless, think SF NYCetc.

Look at the 10 year total... I bet you could build a lot of housing with that, enough to put a serious dent on the shortages.

But what do we have to show for this money?

Where did it go anyway?

[–] a9249@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 months ago

the board members of the various NGOs that pretend to do something about it.

[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

God why must everything be polarized