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Same logic as for the !dataisbeautiful is another thread, let's discuss a few options in the comments below

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[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

!privacy@lemmy.ca

Pros:

  • Active community (477 users / week 531 users / month)
  • Actively managed by @QuentinCallaghan@sopuli.xyz, admin of sopuli.xyz
  • Well managed instance

I dont see any con here, but feel free to point out any

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The idea was more to discuss which one to pick to become the "default" one to post too, but happy to help

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Like Linux distributions, I think the biggest, most popular one will have the best chance at challenging the status status quo, so every subscription matters!

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago
[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

!privacy@links.hackliberty.org

Pros:

  • Active community (1.23K users / week 1.52K users / month)

Cons:

  • Single admin instance, who is also the mod of the community
[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago

From @andrew_s@piefed.social

The instance I’m on is defederated from links.hackliberty.org. I’m not certain why, but I looked at it to find it’s a place for conspiracy theories, including ‘9/11 Truth’ stuff, so it’s probably that. There looks to be a bit of indecision about the right instance for a new ‘privacy’ community, so I’m just mentioning this in regard to that.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

!privacyguides@lemmy.one

Pro:

  • Active community and known name

Cons:

[–] mke@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe I'm missing context or misunderstanding something here, but isn't it a little early to say the instance/community aren't being managed? There doesn't even seem to have that much relevant feedback to base anything on, so far.

Furthermore, privacyguides isn't just a known name to me, it's also a well regarded one. I appreciate them having an official community on Lemmy, so that pro carries a certain weight with it.

P.S. thank you for your efforts towards reducing centralization and unnecessary reliance on lemmy.ml.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Hello,

For some additional context:

  • Lemmy.one was among the last instances on 0.19.2. I asked about it, which triggered their update: https://lemmy.one/post/13900606
  • Jonah, the main mod of the !privacyguides community, and single admin of the instance hasn't posted in the last 5 months: https://lemmy.one/u/jonah, same for the rest of the mods of that community
  • Their pinned post at the instance level is still the 0.19.0 update 6 months ago
  • The last moderation action in !privacyguides modlog was 3 months ago (https://lemmy.one/modlog/10)

So indeed, the name is known and that's a pro (I mentioned it in the top comment), but it seems like the instance and the community aren't actively looked after.

Edit: last point: the instance has 7k registered users for 230 active users a month, email verification was optional during registration, seems like people have been using it as a farmbot (registration has since then been disabled).

[–] mke@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thank you, that's a bit of a shame. I see that you pinged Jonah, here's to hoping he'll share his thoughts and perhaps shed some light on the situation.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 3 points 5 months ago

Let's see how it goes, but from another comment, it seems like they are more focused on their Discourse instance: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/

In that context, I can understand why they wouldn't want to spend too much time on Lemmy

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pinging @otter@lemmy.ca to see what you think as I see you posted recently there.

Do you think that the instance seeing unmanaged is an issue? I got a DM from one of the mods just now, he told me they review the reports "from time to time". The last mod actions were 3 months ago.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh interesting, I didn't know it was mostly unmoderated. I would have preferred to post there, and posts there do get a lot of discussion, but lack of moderation is a problem.

Maybe they would be willing to let some more active users here keep an eye on the community? Otherwise I'll use whichever other privacy community we decide to go with

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I have one of the mods on Matrix, I suggested to have you as a mod, let's see what they say

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! Happy to keep an eye on things / help recruit other mods if that's what they'd like to do

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hello,

FYI, I suggested the mod to add other mods such as you on Friday no answer so far.

The discourse thread didn't get any answer either: https://discuss.privacyguides.net/t/we-re-giving-lemmy-a-try-welcome-to-privacyguides-lemmy-one-x-post/12734/7

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Thank you nonetheless!

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Great post - it's an excellent idea to highlight communities not on .ml or .world as it helps spread the love and the load.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. As an update, I dm'd the last active mod on !privacyguides, no answer so far.

I might go to their discourse and ask them directly, at least we'll know

[–] Emperor@feddit.uk 3 points 5 months ago

Looking at the activity there, they've clearly cut Lemmy loose.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Pinging @ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world, @neme@lemm.ee and @TheTwelveYearOld@lemmy.world as you seem to post quite a lot on this topic, what do you think?

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

4 months later, situation is pretty much the same. Lemmy.one might really disappear overnight, I might do a post about it over there, but we probably don't have a definitive alternative.

FYI @ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world

@rottenwheel@lemmy.zip you also seem quite active on the topic, what do you think?

@otter@lemmy.ca fyi

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Still open to changing up where I post :)

!privacy@lemmy.ca has active mods

I just came across !privacy@programming.dev as well

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If !privacy@lemmy.ca has active mods, that's probably better.

I just checked the programming.dev one, there were two devs: one admin, and one which hasn't been active for a year

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

That makes sense, happy to help in any way as needed!