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Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has always insisted she is not a climate change denier and that her rightwing government is committed to greener sources of energy.

But her coalition is putting the brakes on the rollout of solar panels on farmland, which Meloni has described as a “threat to our food sovereignty” — a claim refuted by some farmers and solar energy experts.

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[–] card797@champserver.net 34 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"All that free energy is going to hurt the farmers." Yeah. Ok.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The saddest part is that Italian farmland is quickly losing value due to climate change (especially lack of rain). Here is a great alternative source of income for farmers that will also solve the underlying problem. Instead they choose to continue to pollute.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 18 points 5 months ago

Yeah. A fair amount of California's utility-scale solar is built on land which was farmed for a while, but which didn't have a sustainable water supply.

[–] br3d@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

~~fossil fuel companies~~ farmers

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

The panels will clearly starve nearby plants of sun. All conservatives are equal

[–] MrMakabar@slrpnk.net 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Italy's population is declining. I guess that raises food consumption nowadays.

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 months ago

Hint: "food" is an excuse here, not some underlying issue.

[–] Blaze@reddthat.com 4 points 5 months ago

Sad for a country with so much sun