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I installed Bitwarden from F-Droid, but I happened to notice yesterday that Bitwarden was in my list of apps with updates available from Play Store, even though I installed it via F-Droid. Why would that be?

I know this is a better question for the Bitwarden forums, but I don't have enough street cred there to make a post.

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[–] db2@lemmy.one 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It has the same signature.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ok thanks. Assuming I'm a colossal moron, an absolute clown-shoe wearing buffoon about technology ... what is a signature? I've heard this term used in tech forums, but as a humanities guy I've never quite grasped it.

[–] varaki@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apps (apks) must be signed before uploading to distribution sites like play store or f-droid. Some devs are signing their app releases with different keys, because for example the google play version of the app has to contain stuff they don't include in f-droid versions. These are mostly privacy related things, google does not allow in their play store. In case of bitwarden the two versions are most probably the same and they're signed with the same key. So if there's an update in either of the two distribution sites it will show you, that there's an update. Now I use Aurora Store instead of play store for apps that are not available in F-Droid and you can blacklist apps there, so I only get updates from F-Droid.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So are you saying that the Google Play version of an app is likely to have more privacy than the F-Droid version?

Also, I've noticed the F-Droid filter on Aurora Store is broken. All of my F-Droid apps still appear in my list of updates.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

fDroid filter works for me 🤷

you can put the apps you want ignored in the black list of Aurora too

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Blacklist apps: By blacklisting apps, Google will not know that the selected apps are installed on your device

I think blacklisting only hides the apps from Google, not Aurora

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

then when you blacklist apps, aurora no longer searches for their updates either 🤷

try it for yourself. next time there is an update for an app; instead of updating, blacklist it. (you can always undo

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, so the only reason to blacklist an app would be if you didn't want to update for some reason

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or if you want to update from other repositories

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, I get it now. So I'd want to do that to my F-Droid apps, if I prefer to run their updates via F-Droid.

[–] varaki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the Google Play version of an app is likely to have more privacy than the F-Droid version?

No, the opposite

[–] Mermitian@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that sideloaded apps do get updated by the play store. (As long as their internal app manifest matches, I presume?)

[–] rikudou@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not manifest, their signature must match. Usually F-Droid apps have their own signature but they also support providing your own signature precisely for compatibility with other stores.

[–] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This reminds me of something else that tripped me out. I started using Aurora to update apps, and I was so confused about why there were so many unexpected updates. Apparently, Google doesn't roll out updates all at the same time. Now I know why people in my discord complain about updates that I don't see until days later.

Maybe if the updates happen to align, they will appear in multiple places? I'm not sure, but I really wish Play couldn't "see" all the apps I've installed on my device. Creepy-ass behavior.

[–] Mermitian@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

The slow rollouts are so annoying too, I often saw apps say I need to update without there even being an update for me.

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