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We believe that any software should support fundamental digital freedoms. With the rise of cryptography and computer systems, it is now possible to guarantee these freedoms in the world of bits: privacy of thoughts, freedom of speech, right to authorship, and autonomy from software providers. These rights can be encoded into the code, which when open, can be freely verified by anyone. This way, trust among users and developers can be established.

This is our way. By opening our source code, we ensure that our users have complete autonomy and independence from the Any Association. They retain the ability to analyze, compile, and run each software component on their personal machines without relying on external parties. This guarantees uninterrupted access to the tools and data they generate and store, shielding them from any potential restrictions.

We see our products as an open ecosystem where the community can contribute in various ways, not only by committing to the core source code. Contributors can develop integrations, design themes, create use cases for the in-app library, or provide documentation and translations.

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[–] sub_@beehaw.org 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using it for a week, and I've also been using Obsidian for a couple of months.

It's quite different from Obsidian.

Obsidian:

  • is great in writing notes / markdown, very text heavy
  • there are dataview that could tie relations between notes, but it's not user friendly to set it up. Also table creation is still not user friendly.
  • has great community plugin support
  • very keyboard friendly

Anytype:

  • is great in creating relations between objects, you define objects and relations all the time, e.g. Movie object has a Director relation that ties to a Director object, etc.
  • it's good for drag & drop / mouse heavy interactions, the keyboard navigation is still clunky (hard to select some sections just by using keyboard)
  • no community plugins

I use Obsidian to write my language grammar notes, it's very fast, and I could do most stuff on keyboard without switching to mouse.

I use Anytype to setup kanban boards, information of my video games backlog, I use it for planning tasks that I wanna do later, set the status to in-progress, and watch it show up on the dashboard. It's very linkage heavy.

Anytype is probably more of a replacement of Notion, instead of Obsidian, albeit it's still in alpha, thus it doesn't have enough features to go against Notion yet. But I am enjoying it thoroughly, the UI is clean and not bloated, although it requires you to define Objects and Relations if you want to fully utilize it.

[–] lfromanini@feddit.nl 6 points 1 year ago

Does Anytype supports markdown?

[–] tenth@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Very nice write-up. Was it fast for you to use? Notion has gotten quite slow for me on mobile

I still do not understand how their sync work, based on their description:

synced in your local p2p network

Can someone please explain this to me?

Their FAQ is pretty good , but it still does not answer that question

[–] irasponsible@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

"synced in your local p2p network" would mean, to me, to set it up yourself, not that they have a syncing solution.

[–] Exagone313@share.elouworld.org 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@forgotaboutlaye No, it's a proprietary license: https://github.com/anyproto/anytype-ts/blob/main/LICENSE.md

It is a custom license that forbids commercial usage. The terms are actually very limited and I think their license is flawed. I wouldn't use their software at all.

[–] unixgeek@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you want something that's really open source, consider Joplin (AGPL-3.0, https://github.com/laurent22/joplin/) or CherryTree (GPL3, https://github.com/giuspen/cherrytree).

[–] jcg@halubilo.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Logseq is another one under AGPL-3.0

[–] whysofurious@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just trowing here other two open-source alternatives: https://silverbullet.md/ (Obsidian-like) and https://appflowy.io/ (Notion-like)

[–] Rambler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Both these projects look really good - are there any android alternatives to obsidian or notion?

[–] Rambler@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ignore my comment - I meant to ask if there were android versions of the previous two packages. It's been a hectic day!

[–] whysofurious@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry! I did not see the notification. So appflowy I think is desktop only for now, but afaik there is work in progress to bring it on mobile https://github.com/AppFlowy-IO/appflowy-editor/issues/68

As for silverbullet, the app is basically a PWA so if you have a server you can theoretically run it there and access it anywhere. I never tried but I heard people even collaborating, so. I had access to testflight beta for iOS, but I believe at one point the developer decided to focus more on stability and less on multi-platform releases, but I’m not sure. They have a discord channel where they are very active though.

[–] Rambler@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the reply - saved the github and discord links so will check them out soon.

[–] hyperspace@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What does it do that Logseq doesn't?

[–] Tundra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

How does it compare to Obsidian.md?

For further reference: https://anytype.io/ is the actual project page.

[–] tsuni@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having used it for a bit, it feels more like a Notion alternative than an Obsidian competitor. For instance, it isn’t based on Markdown and pages aren’t directly accessible on the OS filesystem (there’s some sort of pseudo-cloud storage thing going on). Its Sets and Collections feel like a different take on Notion’s databases. Some of the default examples loaded into the app are a task tracker and a movie list, two things I use Notion for right now. I’m sure there’s some feature overlap with Obsidian, but that doesn’t seem like Anytype’s primary goal.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see. I would like to see a FOSS alternative to Obsidian but its ecosystem with plugins and such is way too useful for me as a writer, roleplayer and gamemaster that I really can't replace it with anything else. But Anytype isn't it then. Thanks for the comparision.

[–] tsuni@beehaw.org 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why wouldn’t you consider Obsidian FOSS? It seems like the source code is available. I’m relatively new to open source and not trying to argue, just think that there’s a distinction that I’m missing.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Just because they have github repos for their releases and community plugins and their spec doesn't mean they are Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).

  • Free would apply, since you can use it with free of charge, and you don't even need their Sync service since you can host it on your own git repository.
  • Open Source, no there where it fails down. Their source isn't open, as it isn't publically available.
[–] tsuni@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see, I don’t know why I thought they were open source when the second line of the releases github says they aren’t, lol. Thank you for clearing that up for me!

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Hey, no problem :)

[–] spaduf@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Logseq takes a very different approach with regards to the minimum working object, opting for something closer to paragraphs than pages, but it's currently my go to recommendation along with Trillium. It also has great stylus/handwritten support.

[–] lfromanini@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I liked the initiative, the ideals and so on. But even a simple information I couldn't find: does it supports markdown?

[–] sub_@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It supports some markdown syntaxes, e.g. # for heading, * for bullets, etc.

[–] lfromanini@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago
[–] whysofurious@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Nice, I will try it out. As others have said, seems more a Notion-like than an Obsidian alternative, but still a nice tool. Since using obsidian for more than a year I am used to having my markdown notes visible in my folders and access them also outside the application itself, but I saw I can export them from anytipe in markdown. I'll give it a try and see how it goes.

[–] code@lemmy.mayes.io 1 points 1 year ago

Can you share notes/collab yet?

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