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I got tired of remaking my sisal trellice every season, and didn't like using nylon netting, so I went with something more long term. The downside? Vine removal in the fall will likely be a slog.

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[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can you just let it dry and brush off with a stiff bristle or leaf blower? Thats my plan for my cheap wire mesh. Good stuff is so expensive. But mines are peas and tomatoes, assuming cukes for yours?

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cukes, peas, beans, pumpkins, trombetta, and butternut squash. Basically something different ever 2 feet or so.

The vines do get easier to remove in the spring if you let them overwinter, but they can still be a pain to get off.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Dang, I was hoping it would be easier and I could save the metal mesh, but sounds like I’ll invest in something heavier. This years the more expand and experiment anyways, so didn’t want to invest too much on trellis yet anyways.

The peas will attach, but I’ve got plant wire and twine for the tomatoes, so hopefully they peel right off after o remove those?

How do you deal with rotation with something like this? Thats partly why I’ve been hesitant about permanent structures like this.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You should be able to save the mesh, it will just be somewhat labor intensive. I suggest either doing it toward the end of the season when things are still playable or waiting for sprint when things are starting to decintegrate. Hard and dry is difficult.

I do the Florida weave with my tomatoes. They're not difficult to remove, but again it takes some amount of labor. It's easier to do when the plants still bend.

This will be the arch's third year. I do rotate plants around in my rased beds, and have been growing a winter cover crop, but I the arch to things that climb. I do make a point of planting different things in the same spot and work pole beans and snow/snap peas in as well.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

It’s the labor intensive I’m worried about right now, next year will hopefully be better if my surgery is done. My only other thought was thicker wires like with yours and take the weed whacker to it >.>

And omfg, sorry side rant, why is everything either a “Florida X” or “California Y”, I don’t get it, it’s common nomenclature for stuff in Canada even.

Yeah that makes total sense, just rotate the stuff around it, little more complicated than I wanted for my garden planner thing I’m using. I’ll see if I can figure it out.

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I have no idea why it's Florida x or California y, but if I had to guess it's because they're two of the bigger fruit/veg states. We also have Idaho potatoes (formerly Maine), etc, lol.

A weed whacker might work. Heat might work too, but obviously it will depend what's supporting the metal structure.

[–] Cikos@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

im not a gardener or have any experience in gardening. but can you just use steel wire vertically and nylon horizontally so when the time to trim them down you just cut (i assume you use some kind of power tool) vertically along the steel wire?

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

The PVC structure is what supported the nylon. Cutting down the nylon is exactly what I did the first year, but the nylon was rotting in the sun (when you touched it it would discentigratr) and I didn't like having to throw everything away. Sisal was nice in that it composts, but since no one sells a (cheap) sisal net I spent hours making my own.

[–] ThrowawaySobriquet@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Gorgeous. I love this. What all you gonna grow on that monster?

Edit: nevermind. I see you answered that already. Nice

[–] IMALlama@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Not everything makes it all the way to the top, but it's pretty epic. I'll have to try to keep the vines on the inside, otherwise harvesting will be a massive pain.

[–] Branch_Ranch@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

In the fall just burn it off with a weed burner (dragon torch).