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Can I please just get a car, instead of a rolling computer / infotainment / privacy nightmare?

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[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Im really curious as to how a nissan gathers details about sexual activity. I mean teslas have interior cameras that use image recognition to confirm that your eyes are on the road for safety, The data verifiably never leaves the car and is never saved but “Collecting data on facial expressions” seems like kind of a weird and dishonest spin on that.

“Volkswagen’s cars reportedly know if you’re fastening your seatbelt” Is that just the occupancy sensor and seat belt sensor letting you know you forgot to fasten your seatbelt? or that one of your passengers is unbuckled? I wouldn’t consider that an invasion of privacy.

Collecting the data is not whats important when theres safety implications. Its what’s done with the data thats important and potentially privacy invading. Nissan does have the term about selling your data in writing, thats probably more of a legal blanket statement to cover them in the future for some super weird edge case.

Generally speaking privacy invasions are more aligned with free services

[–] ErwinLottemann@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

about the tesla interior camera. no it does not. at least not in a very useful way. it tries to maybe detect that you probably are not distracted. one way to make it give up is wearing sunglasses.

[–] Ocelot@lemmies.world 0 points 1 year ago

I wear sunglasses to drive all the time. If I look down at the touchscreen to use the nav it beeps at me and tells me to keep my eyes on the road. It will even detect if you have a phone in your hand. Where do you see that it doesn’t monitor in any useful way? Would you prefer that people not be reminded of distracted driving?

[–] Niiru@feddit.de 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] notfromhere@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

From the article you linked:

In its Customer Privacy Notice, Tesla explains that if a customer agrees to share data, “your vehicle may collect the data and make it available to Tesla for analysis. This analysis helps Tesla improve its products, features, and diagnose problems quicker.” It also states that the data may include “short video clips or images,” but isn’t linked to a customer’s account or vehicle identification number, “and does not identify you personally.”

So (1) it is opt-in specifically, and (2) that article is taking about the external cameras.

[–] YaDong@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Ronno@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

No, the issue is not cars, the issue is governments allowing, or actively pushing these companies to mass surveillance on a wide scale. This goes beyond the car. Children born today will never experience Privacy.

[–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 8 points 1 year ago

I'm still wondering how they'd be able to collect race, genetic, sexual, etc. information, some of those things don't seem at all possible, but they're somehow listed anyway, which is doubly scary

[–] glasgitarrewelt@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

I love my bike so much. Hopefully there is a future where I can just sell the stupid car without drawbacks.

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 year ago

Wow, that's completely fucked. Normally I would be surprised, but deaddove.gif

[–] DestroyMegacorps@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Good thing my family owns a owner type jeep that dosent connect to the internet