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[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 152 points 4 months ago (5 children)

McAfee should also be banned. That thing is near impossible to remove.

[–] ilmagico@lemmy.world 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But is not Russian, just like Instagram is not Chinese.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

To be fair, he provided instructions.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 months ago

I had a laptop with it preinstalled, when I wasn't a Linux user yet.

That video by late John McAffee was good. Even though he was a conspiracy theorist from the most clueless kind of libertarians - that kind who think they can go to a Latin American country with corrupt law enforcement and feel like alpha there. I mean, even if they can, one shouldn't mix up tourism and immigration, as they say in Russian.

[–] 4vgj0e@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Avast Antivirus should be banned too, they did a lot of shady shit

[–] Reviever@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

i find it quite easy to remove....why is it that hard in your opinion?

[–] BirdyBoogleBop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not to give too much away. I've had to remove consumer and enterprise versions before.

How enterprise is supposed to go is you get the deletion key. Uninstall restart the machine and it should be gone. Except that didn't always happen. So you would do it again which sometimes worked or McAfee says the deltion key is now wrong, probably because it didn't verify the uninstall. So you had to delete certain files in it's installation folder run regular windows uninstall that hopefully finally kills it. I think at some point a downloaded uninstaller was used but I don't really remember.

Consumer was an "easier" uninstall mostly cus we had a script. Try windows uninstall normally or if that doesn't work get the McAfee uninstaller online, run in command line with options (most of the time it was required and not doing so was an extra unessicsry step). You also had to check other places to make sure you got everything (it was a while ago I forgot what and where) because McAfee still sometimes just keeps running in the background doing nothing (hopefully) but hogging reasources.

Was a while ago so for all I know McAfee got it's shit together, but I would be surprised if they did.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Even on the consumer side, McAfee has historically been hard to uninstall. It would do shit like leave an installer after uninstallation, so it would automatically reinstall the next time you rebooted. After running Windows’ built in uninstaller, you still have to go manually remove files to prevent it from just adding itself back again.

[–] db2@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Seems reactionary, but maybe not

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Not really https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/01/technology/kaspersky-lab-antivirus.html

Very creative how Kaspersky used SEO to hide this story. When searching you have to exclude all of their sites to find it.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] takeda@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

Thanks, the article was accessible for me so I thought it would be also for others.

[–] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Sorta.

Kaspersky has had some really shifty behavior in the past and even appeared to be working in concert with Russian govt, so imo this is a long time coming.

The timing, however, is reactionary.

[–] _NetNomad@kbin.run 17 points 4 months ago (10 children)

what antivirus are the cool kids using these days? i feel like whenever i finally settle on one it ends up embroiled in this or that scandal

[–] Kenny@feddit.de 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Windows Defender + uBlock Origin with more filter lists + brain.exe in free tier

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Tbh, uBlock Origin + brain.exe has been carrying the heaviest load for years for me. Windows Defender would catch 80% of the occasional slips where brain.exe wanted some risks, too.

[–] 108@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Never heard of brain.exe could I get some more info and maybe an official link?

[–] marito@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

They mean themselves, their brain.

[–] Land_Strider@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh no, not at all. First, you need to download the dependencies tho. Start with downloading more ram.

[–] marito@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ah, the blinker fluid of the computer world.

[–] 108@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Welp, now I feel dumb haha

[–] 108@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Welp, now I feel dumb haha

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 13 points 4 months ago

Built in Windows anti virus and don't be stupid

[–] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] _NetNomad@kbin.run 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

does that have a free tier or only paid plans

[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I think it's region locked so good luck finding it. I don't recommend pirating it because they usually contain viruses.

[–] Dlayknee@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Nothing replaces common sense, but I've been using ESET for years now and have been really happy. Just the AV mind you, none of the other security suite bs.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago

The only real answer I’ve ever got from PC nerds is: None. You don’t need it. Just don’t be stupid. Easy.

Made me super uneasy when I was getting my first PC lmao

[–] GreatDong3000@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I use Linux and only install software from the official distro repository + verified flatpaks. No av, no worries.

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Get he out lest he be ready to drop to your knees and gibe praise to the righteous AUR as it doth demand.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you’re using Windows, the built in AV (Windows Defender) is actually pretty great. Maybe run Malware Bytes every now and then, (as in, install Malware Bytes, run it, then immediately uninstall it again). Between those two (and healthy browsing habits, like using an adblocker, not downloading random .exes, etc) will keep you protected. No AV in the world will be able to fully defend against bad browsing habits, so it all really comes down to that.

But this is Lemmy, so you’re bound to get buried in “just switch to Linux cuz Windows is a virus” stuff. And while that may be true, it’s clearly not the answer to your question.

[–] praise_idleness@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

If we're talking windows, ditch the OS. It's the virus itself at this point. It's like asbestos. We had some fun. It was useful. But now we all know that it is flawed from the start.

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] vxx@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)
[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If you’re using Windows, the built in AV (Windows Defender) is actually pretty great. Maybe run Malware Bytes every now and then, (as in, install Malware Bytes, run it, then immediately uninstall it again). Between those two (and healthy browsing habits, like using an adblocker, not downloading random .exes, etc) will keep you protected. No AV in the world will be able to fully defend against bad browsing habits.

But this is Lemmy, so you’re bound to get buried in “just switch to Linux cuz Windows is a virus” stuff. And while that may be true, it’s clearly not the answer to your question.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)

reactionary nonsense just as it was when trump did it.

especially considering eugene has no love for the kgb.

(source: worked for kaspersky usa from 2011-2014 and have met him multiple times when he visited)

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 4 months ago

The only thing that would worry me is that he doesn't have to love the FSB (used to be KGB), he just has to love not being thrown out of a window enough to comply with whatever they may wish, like oh say a Russian state owned Trojan not being detected by it or something. Not that they're definitely doing that, but the possibility isn't 0%.

I mean it's basically the same reason I don't trust much of the US based proprietary software, just %s/FSB/CIA/g, the only real reason to trust one over the other is if you trust either agency more than the other IMO, otherwise distrust both.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 months ago

especially considering eugene has no love for the kgb.

That may be a weird way to say he has lots of love for SVR (external intelligence service) or police K department, but not FSB.

Like that conversation in the "Sneakers" movie about FBI, CIA and NSA.

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Only national spyware is allowed

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

This.

Most of the tech stack is american controlled and that is a security and privacy risk to everybody. From instruction set architecture to control over the social media. To American enemies, American allies.. american's themselves nobody is safe... probably the those that are best at mitigating said risk or take any steps at all are the American enemies.

[–] Korkki@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

This.

Most of the tech stack is american controlled and that is a security and privacy risk to everybody. From instruction set architecture to control over the social media. To American enemies, American allies.. american's themselves nobody is safe... probably the those that are best at mitigating said risk or take any steps at all are the American enemies.