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[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This behavior is more a response to the notion that a work day should be 100% productivity at all times, but that's not how most jobs work nor how human beings do work.

I get paid to do a certain job, if I'm given 6 hours to do a job and finish it in 3 and then do nothing for the next 3 hours that's not me being lazy or taking advantage of my employer.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

As a tradesman, my boss would fire me in a heartbeat if i took those 3 hours. Instead the customer still gets charged the 6 hours qouted price and I'm expected to go do more work or put in some time around the shop with the extra time.

By your example are you expecting your employer to still only pay you 6 hours of work even if the job ended up taking 8?

[–] retrospectology@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

If I do a job efficiently that doesn't mean my boss should then get to then extract free labor out of me. It's why hours alone are a poor way of judging labor value, and it results in a vicious cycle of demanding more and more productivity from workers with them getting less for it.

I think the work day for most types of work should be shortened with no reduction in pay because it's been proven that many industries can reduce the work week to 32 hours with no drop in productivity, and in fact it comes with savings for the business (ex. less time running facilities and services, better use of resources).

If a customer is provided a quote before hand then that should just be the price, if the contractor can't provide what was promised in the time frame they themselves gave then that's on them.

There needs to come a point where the workers themselves start receiving the benefits of their own efficiency -- when time is created it should be workers who get that time back for themselves, instead what we see is that the CEOs syphon up all that extra time for themselves and either work less or convert it into money for their own pocket.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 21 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This article reads like AI wrote it. It repeats itself very early on the nature of offences, then it reads like the introduction to actual journalism before stopping cold.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've been saying this for a while now, but AI articles read like bad high school essays. "State your thesis. Write a paragraph that echos your thesis. Say something that may or may not be related to your thesis. Finish by repeating your thesis."

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 5 points 4 months ago

There are probably enough school essays in most AI training sets to represent a measurable percentage. (Although there is probably a much larger percentage of pornographic fan fiction with subliterate spelling and grammar, so maybe we should be glad that we're only getting bad high school essays.)

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Thsts how good articles are written by humans, though. Books too. Emails too

People should be able to speed read your content without missing the most important points, because its reiterated and stated in s few different ways

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 1 points 4 months ago

I suppose that is what happens when it is trained on bad HS essays.

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, same thought here. Even more revealing (damning?) Is the fact that it was written by 'staff.'

I see this style more and more, and they always serm to be written by generic 'staff.'

[–] pbjamm@beehaw.org 2 points 4 months ago

Staff is the name of their ChatGPT account.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Everyone who would see some difference by using a mouse jiggler should use one. If your supervisor is tracking mouse activity they can get fucked. If your machine auto-locks after a fixed number of minutes it can also get fucked.

I'd suggest just installing Caffeine though.

[–] mipadaitu@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Often you can get by just starting a PowerPoint presentation, alt tab away, and let it run in the background. It'll keep the computer from locking and you don't need to install anything that might look suspicious.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 4 months ago

Employment is a mutual arrangement - never be concerned about looking suspicious. Be prepared to explain your choice honestly and stand by the actual work you're producing. Asses-in-chairs style management is toxic and you should push back against it.

[–] Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

Depends on what kind of input logging your employer is doing. Some of them are monitoring keystrokes and mouse activity, not just whether your system is locked or asleep.

[–] saigot@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 months ago

If your on windows (yeah yeah windows bad) I would suggest Windows Power tools. It's developed by windows as a 3rd party tool so it's relatively easy to get approval to have it installed if you need it. and it comes with many other useful tools besides the always on stuff

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Productivity remains unchanged, i'm all for it.

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How some ~~federal~~ employees are pretending to work using 'mouse jigglers'.

FTFY.

This happens everywhere that managers are more interested in warming chairs than actually being productive:

  • If you measure your employees by their work done, this isn't an issue; if they're getting what you think should be eight hours of work done in four, you promote them, pay them more and/or give them more responsibilities.
  • If you measure them by the percentage of hours they spend warming a chair, they'll...warm the chair.
[–] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca -2 points 4 months ago

Yeah, so maybe the public service needs to take a look at say "if we have two people warming a chair for 60% of their work time, maybe we should fire two and have the third only warming the chair 10% of the time"

[–] delirious_owl@discuss.online 1 points 4 months ago

I usually just run Qubes, so none of that boss spyware would work anyway