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With the advances in AI and telepathy fields, how do you see the future of privacy? (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by TheBigBrother@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Context: https://www.forbes.com/sites/williamhaseltine/2024/04/24/is-telepathy-possible-perhaps-due-to-new-technology/

Edit: maybe at some point, the police will be able to read our thoughts to know if we are innocent or guilty with a non-invasive device.

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Telepathy?

Telepathy is the translation of thought into transmissible signals without sound that can be received and understood either by computer or others.

Ah well then this post is telepathy. What an odd "definition".

[+] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

How would you define telepathy then?

[–] Canary9341@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Telepathy is typically used for mind-to-mind, but here there is an intermediary. I guess better something like mind-reading.

[+] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Some time ago someone posted about psychic staring effect and morphic resonance stuff here on Lemmy, I think the new advances on the telepathic field are related to both of these.

Edit: the not so good part it's I believe it will not pass so long when someone start to make mind-control possible.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

That sounds like pseudoscience to me.

On the other hand, there have been rather dramatic advances in brain / computer interfaces and using machine learning to interpret electrical signals from the human brain. The good news there is that every brain is different, the machines need to learn each brain individually (a model trained to pull dream images out of my brain will pull just gibberish out of yours).

So far, the researchers would need your close cooperation in order to train a machine to understand even a little bit of what's going on in your mind. This tech is nowhere near being used for interrogation.

[+] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you believe MK-Ultra and Stargate projects have already developed technology related to this stuff?

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 16 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, only if this is a roleplay community. We're getting into the realms of crackpots and conspiracy theories here.

[+] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

MK-Ultra and Stargate projects isn't conspiracy theory, both projects have been declassified some time ago and they were real projects.

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, but nothing real came of them. The US government has a long and well recorded history of spending money on pseudoscience, even well after it's been debunked, as long as there are True Believers in the chain of command.

And the conspiracy theory community has a long and even more dramatic history of taking those mole hills and turning them into mountains (especially if grifters can sell books and / or T-shirts and / or weird copper sculptures that are supposed to "protect" you from it).

Look, I grew up with parents (and a wide community) who believed in psychic shit, crystal healing, telepathy, getting messages from the Akoshic record, what evs. It's NOT real and also believing it is NOT harmless. You're gonna find PLENTY of misinformation about what people "believe" but if you look into any of it, you're going to discover that somewhere along the line someone channeled something or someone like David Icke or Garahm Hancock or Rudolph Steiner or Drunvalo Melchizedek or Raël is involved, or someone is selling tickets to their lecture or psychic seminar.

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I must admit this stuff it's a big business for some people out there..

[–] thebardingreen@lemmy.starlightkel.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

this.

[–] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yes, they were programs that were carried out.

No, they did not prove telepathy, mind control or anything of the sort.

[–] refalo@programming.dev 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

what privacy lol, it's already gone

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

Yup, people have proven time and time again that they are willing to give up privacy for something simple like convenience. So as tech progresses so will the deterioration of any privacy we may have left.

[–] TheBigBrother@lemmy.world -5 points 4 months ago

If privacy wasn't gone, now it is LMAO..

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

I'll bite.

No, they won't literally read brain waves to find out your secrets. Instead maybe they'll have an AI model trained on data from your life and then use it to simulate the things you might be thinking.

Sure, that'll lead to false convictions, but they don't give a shit lol

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

The only surefire form of privacy is to not store information digitally in the first place, ideally not at all.

But sometimes we do have information that needs storing. And in that case privacy requires that you control the data at rest and encrypt the data at transit. All free cloud services can snoop your data if they really want to. If you value privacy, minimize your use of them.

You should assume that every social network is ride with spying, both for corporate and governmental purposes. For example, the main reason TikTok is currently getting threatened with a banning is because they have a less fed-friendly algorithm, so large masses of people are actually seeing the horrors in Gaza. If you watch the nightly news, you won't see that content. If you go to YouTube, you won't see that content. You also will barely see it on Reddit (which literally hired someone that worked at the CIA to be their community manager person lol). Do your best to dissociate your online activity from your personal identity. Use a good VPN that you pay for with cash or a proxy system like a voucher that can't be traced back to you. Use burner email accounts. Etc etc.