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Today, before taking an Uber home, she sent me a text wanting me to be downstairs on the street to greet her as the Uber arrives. I read it and told her that yes, I'll be there. I didn't notice any further text because I was in the middle of something.

Later, I hear the door opening and went to our door to greet her, she was furious and refused to talk to me. I realized I forgot to turn my phone back from silent mode after work today. I told her that it is my bad, she still refused to talk to me. At this point, things are still normal for our relationship, she would usually become willing to talk after a while.

I usually go to sleep at 22:30 and she knows, so I thought we'd sort things out tomorrow and went to bed. I woke up in the middle of the night (later I found out it was 1a.m.) to her standing next to my bed (we sleep in separate bedrooms), and she began asking a series of pointed questions: "What would you do if you found out that I was gone?", "What would you do if the CCTV on our street is broken by chance?", "What would you tell my mother if I went missing?", "If I was actually kidnapped, would you kill the guy for me?"

You know, the usual. I thought she's just angry at me still and wanted to vent, so I went along with her for the time being: "I'd be very worried and look for you everywhere", "I'd sue the city", "I'd tell your mother exactly what happened and say I'm sorry", and "I'd kill the guy who kidnapped you".

She grumbled and asked a few follow-up questions, like "if you're planning to kill the guy, what would you do with our cat?" But at this point, I think she's finding it difficult to stay angry at me. I tell her again that I'm sorry I missed her text, and that next time this happens, she should just call me to make sure I see her text, but she left soon after without acknowledging my apology.

I know I'm in the wrong for missing her text. Not trying to argue otherwise. My question is, am I really responsible if someone kidnaps her between getting off the Uber and getting into our apartment complex? Is she trying to guilt trip me into thinking her anger is justified or am I really a horrible, kidnap-facilitating bad person for missing a few texts?

Edit for context: we live in a pretty safe city that ranks top 10 in the world on low crime rate. Also, thank you all for educating me on what gaslighting actually means. It was 2 in the morning when I posted this, I did not have the energy to find the answer myself.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That's legitimately not gaslighting.

And gaslighting is 100% real thing, but I always think of this Rick and Morty clip now when someone brings it up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFM5E93NOF4

[–] silly_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] RyanLiu@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] silly_crotch@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Yeah I'm sorry if this is insensitive but a lot of this sounds like common cultural expectations for women from east Asian backgrounds. You guys could probably have a discussion about how you understand gender roles and how her upbringing might have informed her.

[–] mundane@feddit.nu 1 points 4 months ago

Texts are not synchronous communication. If a response/action is needed, a voice call is better suited.

[–] You_are_dust@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I can't tell if this is a joke post. Assuming that it's not, there's a lot of missing context. If she wanted you to meet her and you got that text, why didn't you? Do you live somewhere that human trafficking is that much a part of daily life that this is an issue? You make comments like a lot of her irrational actions are normal things, which they probably shouldn't be. She wants assurance that you'll track down and murder a trafficking group like Liam Nesson and then switches gears immediately to what about the cat? I hope this is a joke post.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, can you highlight anything from this story that aligns with the definition of "gaslighting"? I'm sure you looked up the definition and examples before you typed out this post

[–] 14th_cylon@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

since op is asking questions like

My question is, am I really responsible if someone kidnaps her

i'd say she is pretty successful

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee -1 points 4 months ago

That is not gaslighting holy shit

[–] Contramuffin@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago (8 children)

Not gaslighting, and from what you seem to describe, doesn't appear to be manipulative either. She just seems to be angry. Not to say that you can't be both angry and manipulative, but I don't see clear intent for her to try to guilt trip or gaslight you.

Gaslighting would be if she lied and said that she sent you a message when in fact she didn't. i.e., lying with the intent to make you question your judgment and perception

Guilt tripping would be if she pressured you into giving her a gift as compensation for ignoring her message. i.e., taking advantage of someone's feelings of guilt to get them to do something for you.

I don't see any lie, and I don't see hee trying to extract anything out of you. Worst case interpretation, she's being a bit petty. Best case interpretation, she's scared of being alone outside.

I noticed your final paragraph, and I would be cautious in general about saying that someone who's trying to convince you that their anger is justified is automatically manipulative. That's kind of just how anger works. People think that their anger is justified. Otherwise they wouldn't be angry. Manipulation occurs when you start to feel like you are being used for their own motives.

Either way, you should probably talk to her about it. It seems like she thinks the issue is more severe than you appear to think, and that is something that should be discussed with her

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