this post was submitted on 21 Jul 2023
2035 points (99.3% liked)

Privacy

35315 readers
175 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago
MODERATORS
 

And since you won't be able to modify web pages, it will also mean the end of customization, either for looks (ie. DarkReader, Stylus), conveniance (ie. Tampermonkey) or accessibility.

The community feedback is... interesting to say the least.

(page 3) 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Create a browser that creates a live 4K video stream of any visited page then uses AI to identify ads on the page and cover them with a solid matching the pages color.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] AngularAloe@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago
[–] FellowEarthling@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago (10 children)

Can someone please explain to me, a dumdum, why I should be blaming the engineers rather than the people pulling their strings?

load more comments (10 replies)
[–] Mylemmy@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Geez this would suck but as with other drm I’m sure the de-drm plug-in would follow

[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 18 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I'm afraid that browsers supporting this DRM would also block attempts to break it and that browsers that do not support it get blocked by websites using it

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] Zaphod@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If this were to become a thing, couldn't you take the html and insert the content into a locally generated page and modify that?

[–] Zetaphor@zemmy.cc 17 points 2 years ago

For sites that rely on XHR using Javascript, which let's be honest is pretty much all of them, this would not work due to CORS and CSP restrictions

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 16 points 2 years ago

I remember watching Chrome fill up long lists of ??? in the task manager, back when I still used Windows and Chrome on an old Laptop. Both CPU and RAM were working at their utmost and that shit blocked everything.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago

Also fun to read this (by Google employee): https://blog.yoav.ws/posts/web_platform_change_you_do_not_like/ I literally snacked popcorn.

[–] arc@lemm.ee 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I find it hard to see how they could protect content from ad blockers without also crippling pages that self modify their own content. Perhaps they could put headers akin to content security policy that forbids external modification. Assuming a browser were to honour that header I could see bad publicity and a lot of people just moving to another browser which doesn't. Additionally, ad blockers aren't the only things that modify pages - breaking accessibility add ons could be more negative publicity (just like with Reddit).

I think browsers would be best off to let websites develop countermeasures if they're so sore about ad blockers. Perhaps they could use "self healing" Javascript libraries that put back content which is removed. Or they could just refuse to work if they detect an ad blocker, e.g. they stick some canaries in the DOM or along blocked paths to see if an ad blocker is present.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] guy@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This is just terrible.

However, while it does add a layer of annoyance that'll mess things up for most, like any DRM, it fundamentally is unsound and will get cracked. Us good people have a big incentive to do so here. Reading the spec, it still relies on a trusted party (expected to be the OS) and, unlike ie. games consoles, we already have admin access to that party from the get go.

Where it could be a problem is mobile phones. They could target browsers that support ad blocking and you'd probably need to root the phone to get past that.

[–] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Definitely time to make our own internet, with hookers and blow.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

If they overcome / disable ad blocking, they will lose browser market share - and people don't design websites for marginal browsers with exotic features.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well time learn how to jailbreak web pages now too

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments
view more: ‹ prev next ›