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At issue is the NATO two per cent doctrine. That calls for NATO nations to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence.

American politicians, along with retired Canadian generals and Ottawa think tanks who receive funding from the arms industry, have used that to hammer Canada as a failure on defence.

Defence Minister Bill Blair has recounted how hard it is to try to convince cabinet as well as Canadians about the need to meet the two per cent commitment because “nobody knows what that means.”

Add to that mix the current fiscal environment and ongoing concerns from Canadians who have been struggling financially. Directing tens of billions of tax dollars into more tanks, submarines and fighter jets isn’t a top priority among Canadian families.

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[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tax the rich more so that we can hit that 2% requirement.

Then we can adequately support Ukraine.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We need to build up in case of a trump win in the US. He may well order US military action against Canada.

[–] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, we need to remain strong in the face of the fascists who would gladly betray Canada.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We do. And, they will if given the opportunity.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree that force is the only language fascists understand, But what would preparing Canada for a US invasion look like?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No matter how much equipment we purchased, it wouldn't be enough. We would go down fighting. Half of the people here are so brainwashed, they'd be more likely to team up with the trump/putin alliance than defend Canada. It looks bad.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We need to build up in case of a trump win in the US. He may well order US military action against Canada.

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No matter how much equipment we purchased, it wouldn't be enough.

So how much should we build up? Or did you mean build up international alliances?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Both. We can build up enough to fight back with allies.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We would not get state level military support from any ally. China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, and Cuba might help us.

The type of build up that would be effective (if it could even be called that) against a US invasion would be sapping roads and bridges like Switzerland, and transforming our army into a resistance/insurgency force. Should we re allocate our spending towards these aims?

It seems a little premature.

Maybe we should actually invest in helping Canadians (and Americans) engage with and value democracy and human rights.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

China, Russia, North Korea are allied with rapist donald trump. If he were to order an attack on Canada, they will side with him.

[–] m0darn@lemmy.ca 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

They are allied with him because he weakens America. If America invaded Canada, China and Russia would probably support both sides to make America look bad.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Naa. They are with trump and he is with them.