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[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] Persen@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Except the rich 1%, who will be bathing in money. Great!

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

There were literally humans that were both Jewish and helping the NAZIs kill other Jewish people during the Holocaust.

There will be humans willing to serve A.I. and sell out humanity.

[–] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Our robot overlords will.

But more seriously: There is a lot of stuff that AI can't do. And is far off of. It can barely do anything at all for me. Like translate stuff or re-write an E-Mail. The rest is hype. It can't do my laundry, clean up the kitchen. It can't drive the train that gets me to work, not fix a toilet. And it's years if not decades away from being able to do it. I'd be worried if I had some callcenter job or first level support. Or was a useless manager who just pushes paper around all day. These jobs are going to be replaced fast, yes. But it'll take some time for lots of other jobs.

And if we (at some point) advance to a future, where we live in abundance, and technology can do all the hard work, so humans don't have to... Wouldn't that be great? We could do whatever we want. Of course culture and society has to change. We can't have concepts like salaries if we don't work. But by definition we'd have our basic needs met. Food will be enough, or we wouldn't not work anymore. So I guess we just do away with money. Or everyone gets a fixed amount. You could make up your own job. Do arts and crafts, or travel, or spend the day with your kids.

There is one big caveat, however: We won't automatically arrive in a Star Trek post-scarcity utopia. Currently all the AI is owned and designed by big corporations. They also own the computers to run it and they are in control of it. And there is a lot of corporate greed, lobbyism and generally unhealthy divide. I'd say it's very likely that rich people and big, greedy corporations will want to keep everything to themselves. The rich will get richer and assert their dominance with this powerful tool. The poor will get poorer. And can't compete with that at all. And despite theoretically living in a sci-fi world, it'll be a dystopia and end in a big mess / class war / oppression.

But yeah, you're right. Our current form of economy with supply and demand, and money, won't work under those conditions. And I don't think there is a fix to it sou we could keep it.

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago

Someone always has the money. That's who will be buying things.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

In the extreme case, you would have AIs buying from other AIs. Humans aren't the only possible economic agents.

[–] slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 1 points 4 months ago

It'll be an elephant walk of ai and ai adjacent services.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

This isn’t any different from any other automation , so far. Every time there is a new level of automation, someone asks this question. Yes there can be disruption, even a generation or two lost at the level of “Industrial Revolution”, but so far it’s always come back with more jobs, more opportunity.

So what’s different this time? Do you thinks it’s good enough to replace thinking? That was my fear when it looked like self-driving was coming fast, but that fizzled out, and I have Vern blower expectations for this round of generative ai. Sure, it might be transformative to some roles and destructive to the remains of journalism but I don’t see it taking many actual jobs

We’re arguably already in this situation with outsourcing, smart automation, service industries, where there seem to be fewer “middle” jobs. While some of us can be the higher skilled new jobs, way too many new jobs are just not

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They don't need anyone to buy products if they already have all of the resources, and an army of drone soldiers and slaves. For an example, watch Elysium. It'll be like that, but without the opportunity to revolt.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Ohhh, oh. So you didn't see that episode of black mirror yet?

It's a good one.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

People in other countries

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