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[–] willybe@lemmy.ca 43 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The conservatives voted for body autonomy and ban mask mandates... and then banned body autonomy for transgendered children

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Children can't vote but their parents can and their base fear government telling them how to raise their children. This strategy forces liberals into a no win situation were they will always look like their goal is to brainwash their kids. That fear is something a lot of fence sitters already fear.

[–] FunderPants@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brainwashing kids by not injecting the state into private medical decisions?

I don't get it, but fear is not rational.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It is a type of reasoning, just a bit twisted. By giving kids the ability to transition or seek medical interventions, you're also taking away the parents ability to control their kids, forced by the state which is a quick jump on the conclusions map to the other belief they've set up previously which is the state is brain washing kids to become trans through the state run education system.

So in their view, the liberals are forcing trans ideology on children while trying to remove parental rights.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Their view is that children are their property.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yup, which they kind of are in a way.a parent is responsible for them legally until 18.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

No. Responsibility is not ownership. You have an obligation to your kids, not the other way around. If the kid doesn't want to tell you a profound secret about who they are, then it's time to reflect on your parenting, not to get the government to force teachers to rat them out.

[–] Prezhotnuts@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 years ago (2 children)

From a party of babies who are afraid of a needle, they sure seem to care about what other people do with their bodies.

I thought they were for freedom?

[–] frostbiker@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

They want freedom to do what they want, not freedom for you to do what you want. To be fair, we are all a bit like that.

[–] Touching_Grass@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I think its more that they can infer with this stuff that liberals are coming for ✌️your✌️ kids

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Despite warnings that these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for a motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related "life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions," and for another that said Canadians should have "bodily autonomy" when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

This is great. It's harder to nail them when they don't say the quiet part out loud.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 years ago

I really hope this is the stuff that turns the squishy middle against them. I know some trans kids and I'm scared to death of shit like this for them.

But I also know most people see trans kids as weird and scary as a concept, and are ready to go along with this fear.

Listen to the kids.

[–] xfint@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It has always been my dream as a white man to apply to a job created for a young black man from a low income family. Some day I will be able to do so without fear of persecution.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

If you want trump policies in Canada PP and the CPC are your people.

[–] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

To whoever went through and downvoted everyone: we see you.

Your kids will hate you and it will be your fault.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 5 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook, including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and do away with vaccine mandates.

While some members warned these policies could be weaponized by their political opponents to hurt their standing among more moderate voters, a strong majority of the delegates on hand voted for one motion that stated children should be prohibited from gender-related "life-altering medicinal or surgical interventions," and another motion that said Canadians should have "bodily autonomy" when it comes to vaccines and other health treatments.

About 69 per cent of the delegates agreed that young people should be barred from gender-affirming care, which sometimes includes hormone-related treatments that delay puberty or promote the development of masculine or feminine sex characteristics.

The vaccine issue sparked comments about events that transpired during the COVID-19 pandemic, including high-profile freedom rallies.

About 68 per cent of delegates voted on the motion to "affirm Canadians have the freedom and right to refuse vaccines."

Discussion about the motion focused on Jordan Peterson, a professor with a large following in right-wing circles, who was ordered by the University of Toronto to take social media training in the wake of complaints about his controversial online posts and statements.


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