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While Republicans decry left-wing violence (despite the fact that Trump's shooter was a conservative), remember that the right supports and commits acts of violence far more often than the left (youtu.be)

submitted 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) by Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world to c/leftism@lemmy.world

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Source: https://www.start.umd.edu/publication/profiles-individual-radicalization-united-states-pirus-1

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

These people have affiliation based morality, what determines if a given action was moral or not is who did it, not even in a context sense, as in literally they think child rape is completely moral if done by someone from their community and that even charity to the point of enduring asceticism to support the less fortunate is heinous because the person doing it was Wiccan.

My SO would literally be considered as bad as satan himself for working on a farming cooperative to provide fresh produce for the impoverished via a community pantry, for no reason besides she's not Christian.

The point is, we're all vile brutes for even smacking one of them, but if they commit actual prosecutable terrorism via mass killing, they'll see it as completely justified because one of the good people did it.

They literally just stole predestination from the Calvinists and slapped a warped version of the halo effect on it for good measure.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

US foreign policy is the same. "We're the good guys by default."

[–] masquenox@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Does that chart include all the violence perpetrated by the police on a daily basis? If it doesn't it is utterly incomplete, as all police violence is right-wing violence.

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It does not, and in fact they didn't even include all Jan. 6 rioters in the dataset, instead focusing only on those who had ties to extremist groups.

I actually make this same argument towards the end of my video, pointing out how right-wing violence is often institutionalized and so isn't included in extremism databases (e.g. police brutality, the Israeli genocide), and yet despite all of these datasets being flawed and arguably incomplete, they still consistently find that violence is far more common on the right than on the left.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 months ago

Oh, the right-wing pundits and outspoken officials don't really mean it. They really do want their war boys popping off and shooting at politicians. They feel obligated to call for unity and nonviolence immediately after the fact.

And it may also be that after an incident, they notice and remember the Sword of Damocles above them, swaying in the summer breeze suspended by its single hair.

It's not a new phenomenon. I remember in 2008 Sarah Palin engaged in hate speech and incitement, suggesting lone wolves might deal with Democratic rivals for them. But North Carolina Lieutenant Governor Mark Robinson's some folks need killing speech is significantly more mask-off than past years, even 2016 with Trump's comments on Second Amendment people

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Do we have actual proof of him being a conservative?

He was a registered Republican but there are plenty of people who did that just to fuck with the primaries and never voted R.

[–] ResoluteCatnap@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Personal accounts describe him as conservative and defending conservative values even if he was the only one in class

Max R. Smith recalled taking an American history course with Crooks as a sophomore. He did recall Crooks making political statements — but they shed no light on his actions Saturday.

“He definitely was conservative,” he said. “It makes me wonder why he would carry out an assassination attempt on the conservative candidate.”

Smith recalled a mock debate in which their history professor posed government policy questions and asked students to stand on one side of the classroom or the other to signal their support or opposition for a given proposal.

“The majority of the class were on the liberal side, but Tom, no matter what, always stood his ground on the conservative side,” Smith said. “That’s still the picture I have of him. Just standing alone on one side while the rest of the class was on the other.”

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Gotcha, thank you for the info!