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[–] igorlogius@lemmy.world 232 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That website wants to collect and sell all the userdata without consent

[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 83 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Consent? That's just some woke word made up to damage family-owned businesses!

Them, probably.

[–] _thisdot@infosec.pub 9 points 1 year ago

To be fair, the founder of the business, Byju, used to be a very ordinary school teacher and then he built this whole thing. Not family-owned, nor born rich.

Fuck their business practices though

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Or they can't or won't spend the time to comply to regulations of a region they might not do business in anyway.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 205 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Why is it basically only the EU that seems to have an interest in preventing shitty business practices.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 157 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Because the US is controlled by corporations

Asia for the most part doesn't care

Australia is run by right wing nut jobs

New Zealand is quiet so they probably do do something like this but we haven't heard about it.

Japan is Japan. Civil rights isn't really a thing.

And China and Russia love invasion of privacy it's basically the entire basis of their countries.

[–] Ixoid@lemm.ee 39 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Well actshually... Australia used to be run by right-wing nutjobs. The current mob in power are centrist nut jobs.

[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The power behind the throne in Australia is still right wing nut jobs and corporations

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[–] BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf 27 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Moatly about capitalism i think. If you put on privacy restrictions, you are regulating the market, while capitalism believes that the market should regulate itself, and customers will simply stop using those websites/softwares overtime if its too bad. I find this completely delusional in the era of mega corporations, but thats the capitalistic aproach to this.

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[–] Efwis@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 year ago

Because they listen to people rather than ignore them and then make policy based on how much money they can make from the deal.

This shows me the EU is actually more democratic then the US is.

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's much harder to pay off the lawmakers to keep the status quo when the economic area is controlled by dozens of individual governments.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is actually a particularly important point. The nature of the EU is laden with bureaucracy. Combined with the wide range of cultures, and the rotation of staff, it makes bribing enough people to get your way difficult. You end up needing people in multiple countries to deal with it, and the rotations make long term deals difficult.

The end result is that bribing EU bureaucracy is like trying to stop a river with just hands. It's far less effective, letting the EU be a lot more effective (if slow).

There's a reason so many big business interests want to break up the EU.

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[–] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 168 points 1 year ago

I want more predatory websites to do this so that I can avoid them.

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some idiots keep using one of my email adresses for god knows what, ending up in me receiving newsletters and shit. Since actual user accounts are associated, I typically recover the password (since its my email adress) and then delete the account.

There are a few websites with similar restrictions though. They are completely fine sending shit to email adresses they never bothered to verify, but reject logins from countries (or even US states!) that they don't want. Morons.

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

that's when you report as spam. that shit hurts their trust rating and makes their emails more likely to end up in people's spam folders, pretty much killing their newsletter

[–] Black_Gulaman@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Or auto forward it to their customer service email, or company email.

[–] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 11 points 1 year ago

You only tell them your email is active with that.

[–] MashedTech@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Oh boy, that is a great idea. Every time they email me their shitty newsletter I get to create a new support ticket telling them I don't want it. Auto forward seems so nice.

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[–] vmachiel@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (16 children)

This is fine imo. If you don’t want to comply, don’t. You just don’t get to extract EU data

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 48 points 1 year ago

Well, that's one way to comply

[–] Jumpinship@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Perfect. Would be nice if US implemented the same regulations

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Personal data is an enormous market in the US. Too many big players located here. It'd never happen unfortunately. We'd need to replace all of Congress with folks who actually care about rights and people instead of money. We have only a handful on the left and that's only in the house, and that's being generous. I haven't seen any attempts really on the right. So it'd be a long time until this is even remotely possible. I'd be amazed to see a senator actually care about people though. Or even a governor.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Sadly, I live in the U.S., so if I went to this website, it would definitely take my data and sell it.

We don't get a GDPR to protect us. Be glad you do.

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Proxy using an EU based server. Not like websites are going to actually check that you live there.

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[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

EU for the win.

[–] Echo71Niner@lemm.ee 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

wtf is a byju... looks it up.. ok, interesting.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a highly controversial tech company into online education in India. Controversial because they were a highly valued but hugely loss making company and then they apparently fudged their financials, Deloitte quit as their auditor, they underpaid and laid off 1000s of employees/educators, and cheated customers/parents into buying expensive bundles through super aggressive marketing where not so savvy customers were "bullied" into making purchases that are hard to unsubscribe

For example -

https://frontline.thehindu.com/news/investigation-byjus-staff-reveal-harsh-work-conditions-indian-parents-say-edtech-giant-pushed-them-into-debt/article66274546.ece

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[–] betwixthewires@lemmy.basedcount.com 22 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Well, this is what you wanted isn't it? Your government is protecting you, anyone who can't comply can't serve you.

[–] DasRubberDuck@feddit.de 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I read that as you being facetious, but: Yes this is exactly what I want. If a service can not comply with GDPR, the service should not be accessible. It would be great for their customers if the service decided to change their practices to become compliant, but that is a business decision they need to make.

[–] Pechente@feddit.de 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Adding to that: Compliance is not even that hard to implement. I build almost all of my websites with GDPR compliance in mind and it's not really a big deal. There are easy to use tools like Cookie Consent and some of the sites don't even need a banner at all if they have no tracking (which you know, is completely possible too).

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[–] FMT99@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Not "can't comply" but "doesn't want to comply". Other than that fully agreed, it is what I wanted.

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[–] mp3@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

I wish more invasive websites would do this.

[–] GreenEngineering3475@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Trust me, you don't want to visit that website (company).Its sales and marketing methods are scam at best.

[–] crtbob@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I need to know what this website is, so that I never use it.

[–] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Byju, it is an educational group known for its exploitative practices in selling over priced study materials for primary and secondary education in India and also for competitive exams.

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[–] query@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Shows how broken the internet was and still is, basically the homeland of the internet is incapable of building pages that comply with basic regulation.

[–] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Incapable is not the same as refuses to.

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