Very sensationalist head line.
If you read the paper, it is mostly that one well known Japanese instance that according to Japanese laws is mostly legal.
this post was submitted on 24 Jul 2023
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Where did you find the actual study? The link in the above article leads to https://purl.stanford.edu/vb515nd6874 which has an abstract, but I can't see the study.
It links to a PDF with the full study.
For more details and context see this thread by the study’s author: https://hachyderm.io/@det/110769470058276368
I have argued for a while that the Fediverse is way behind in this area; part of this lack of tooling and reliance on user reports, but part is architectural. CSAM-scanning systems work one of two ways: hosted like PhotoDNA, or privately distributed hash databases. The former is a problem because all servers hitting PhotoDNA at once for the same images doesn't scale. The latter is a problem because widely distributed hash databases allow for crafting evasions or collisions.
-- https://hachyderm.io/@det/110769474386499134
This is from the study's author (here's the full thread). It shows how pernicious centralization is in technology. The author is claiming the fediverse is "behind" instead of the tools behind behind in supporting decentralized services. They were developed with only centralized Silicon Valley silos in mind and now they can't keep up with a decentralized infrastructure and the authors solution is for decentralized services to centralize around these tools.
Going by the blurb posted, not the link. How are the demanding more robust moderation and reporting tools when obviously reporting something even took down the instance in question?
Who was the sponsor of this research, Zuck and Musk?
Isn't this bound to happen without built in automated tools for flagging and moderation. Not quite sure how the federation handles this sort of thing besides community modding, saying something if you see something.
yep, i use Cloudflare's CSAM tool to help aid in this... scans all object storage and cached items against known CSAM hashes. i don't think most people hosting instances consider this as a massive liability if it's open to the web for all to see... the feds (only talking about USA here) will shut you down or worse threaten charges if nothing is done about it.
The problem is most of the people that see this crap want to see it. They take perverts to a whole new level, sick bastards 🤮🤮🤮
Fortunately it's all on Japanese instances that many instances like Mastodon.social defederate from
Mastodon, an alternative social network to Twitter
Not reading what's next. Probably, some bull.
This is something I have worried about for a while. The core concept of the fediverse makes stuff like this really easy to do and there’s not really a solution. I guess government agencies just need to be on the lookout for it?
There isn't except going for server owners or infiltrating groups like they already do. Same can be said about encryption or even TCP protocol is being used to distribute CP. You simply can't add CSAM protection for everything, nor should you. That leads to a surveillance state.
It's an unfortunate byproduct of privacy that it will be used for evil, but that doesn't mean we get rid of security. That's how fascism begins.
I was literally just thinking about this and I think you're right
Yeah and this is one of the strong arguments used by governments to banned encryption as well. Or try to implement backdoors which are fundamentally broken as a concept and just straight up breaks encryption. Obviously we all know that's bad. We also have to recognize these privacy and security things we advocate do in fact enable criminals. Still, that's okay as they can be handled by other methods, and the right to privacy should be more important.
You could make the same argument with guns and cars, they can be extremely powerful weapons for bad actors. That does happen to, we have mass shootings and all sorts of crime with cars. But despite that, we still allow everyone to have these things. Well with guns, that's more debatable, but you get what I mean lol.