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Peruvians Rise Up For Democracy: Canadian Government Supports Human Rights Abuses In Peru (thenorthstar.media)
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So why did the Canadian government ramp up their support for an unelected government that was showing themselves to be increasingly more repressive and undemocratic? Maria Cueva of the Quebec-Peru Solidarity Committee provided North Star with an explanation:

"Currently, [Canada] has mining companies that operate there, and the government also sells arms to Peru. That's the point of interest, because we have lots and lots of minerals. That's why they continued their support. And Pedro Castillo's government didn't want to renew the contracts. With Dina Boluarte, they have been renewed. That's it. And the people don't want the mines because they contaminate the whole environment, their territory."

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[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 6 points 2 months ago (2 children)

"Supports" is stretching things way out of shape. "Ignores" or "does not attempt to prevent" might be accurate, depending on what's actually taking place in Peru (about which I have no idea, nor do most Canadians), but to what degree is it acceptable to interfere in another country's politics? Do they expect Canada to enact a trade embargo with Peru to get mining companies headquartered here to stop investing there? This is not stuff we do casually, nor should we.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

A new government came into power in Peru through a coup and has violently repressed protesters. During this time, the Canadian government has "met with almost every different minister of the usurper government" (most likely an uptick in their communication with the Peruvian government) and they increased their military exports 2 months after the coup.

Boluarte's government has become known for its violent suppression of popular protests, with the Peruvian army and national police killing over 70 people in the past two years, the majority indigenous and peasants—​​​​​​​as reported by Amnesty International.

How does that not qualify as Canada supporting human rights abuses? Grant_M

(Edit: You two are doubling down hard on your own misunderstanding or denial)

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

There's a difference between ignorance—even willful ignorance—and active malice.

If the Peruvian government lied about why it wanted the weapons, and our government believed them, then our government is guilty of ignorance and stupidity, but not malice.

If the Peruvian government lied about why it wanted the weapons, and our government knew there was a possible issue but sold them the weapons anyway, that's willful ignorance, but still not malice. Consider the following scenario: Your neighbour borrows a kitchen knife from you, saying he needs to chop some vegetables. Instead, he uses it to kill his wife. You knew that he and his wife had a bad relationship, and you've told him off when you've seen her with suspicious bruises, but you weren't expecting anything like this. Still, you provided the weapon, and you didn't try to step between them. To what degree are you guilty? Should you have interfered in their relationship? That's where I suspect we're at: our government not agreeing with or encouraging the Peruvian government's behaviour, but not shunning the perpetrator or making any real attempt to stop what's going on. Like it or not (and I don't like it), this is really common in international relations. If the original headline had used "ignores" in place of "supports", I would agree with it 100%.

If the Peruvian government told the truth: "We want these weapons to kill and maim our own people," and our government still sold them, then that's malice and would make the headline accurate as it stands. But I doubt that's what actually happened.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

^ Willful ignorance

[–] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

In the case of a usurper government that was massacring citizens within 8 days of taking power, under the veil of "removing human obstacles" and eliminating "hostile groups"... I would argue that support and willful ignorance are one in the same. Unwillingness to refuse supply of arms or materials to the government that is undertaking these actions does nothing but strengthen their campaign of violence.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I emailed them about the headline. This is their official response:

Hello Grant,

Thank you for contacting us.

We would be pleased to hear information that contradicts the facts stated in this article's title and wouldn't hesitate to change it if it is proven incorrect. As it stands, we consider it to be correct.

Thank you.

Editorial committee of North Star

[–] nyan@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'd translate that as "We're too lazy to do any actual checking, so we're going to dump the responsibility on you in the hope that you'll go away."

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago

Very maga-like behavior.

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Canada doesn't support human rights abuses anywhere. The headline is horseshit.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

What a preposterous statement. Off the top of my head: Canada is currently failing to stop the export of lethal equipment to Israel, clearly supporting human rights abuses in Occupied Palestine in that case

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Your men trump and putin are losing.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Ugh, what a dumb, lazy comment. I've identified myself as being opposed to colonial genocide, and you think I back Trump and Putin?! That doesn't even make sense. Is that an "everyone who disagrees with me is a bot or paid foreign actor" take, or a transplant of the "it's verboten to criticize the Dems over the inaction in Gaza" take from US politics?

[–] Grant_M@lemmy.ca -1 points 2 months ago

Do you believe YOU'RE the only one entitled to spew ridiculous hyperbole? Have you ever suggested Hamas terrorists should surrender for prosecution? If not, you can't be taken seriously.