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Danielle Larivee, a vice-president at the United Nurses of Alberta, said nurses are β€œvery alarmed” by hospital transfers she said could negatively affect care and drive critical health-care workers from the province.

Like Parks, Larivee said the worry is the restructuring will lead to more bureaucracy and less co-ordination across the system.

β€œWe're not seeing any evidence at all to support the idea that this is about improving access to care, about improving services or even about saving money,” said Larivee in an interview.

"If we're not saving money and not making care better, why are we doing it?"

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[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

There should be a special place in hell for people who privatize public services

(Edit: And separate from abstract issues with privatization, we already know that the new healthcare administrator Smith wants to bring in specifically excludes - for religious reasons - reproductive care (for women) like birth control and abortions. That's right. We're rolling back our clocks about a 100 years on the separation of church and state. And with healthcare being a provincial mandate - will Albertans whose local healthcare is under the new Christian and/or Catholic administration be able to drive across provincial lines for birth control or an abortion? It's hard to believe these might be relevant questions IN CANADA in the next few years)

[–] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 months ago

I see a few reasons for this bullshit.

  • The conservative masturbatory fantasy of privatizing all government services, leaving the risk and cost to the government and collecting the profits for themselves and their friends
  • The desire to punish people for being sick and "poor" (Really, just not extremely wealthy.) Being sick and being poor are both symptoms of being a Bad Person who made Bad Choices in their fascist eyes.
  • Most urgently right now, this is a huge step towards banning abortion, gender care, birth control, and fertility treatments. In other words, subjugating women.

That's why I call Marlaina "Taliban Dan." It's not just the same playbook as the conservative US states, it's straight out of Iran.

[–] TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Maybe this will be the lesson that Albertans need to stop electing crooks. Right?

... right?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago

I think it might happen but people gotta really see a fuckup that affects them personally, unequivocally.

[–] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Hey guys, it's not so bad, right? Look at AirCanada and ViaRail they were privatized and it worked out great.

[–] Shambles@beehaw.org 12 points 2 months ago

This is the agenda of the Conservative government, nobody should be surprised by this. The fact that people vote for these clowns is mind boggling. Better buckle up, because this is what is going to continue happening across Canada when the federal conservatives win the next election. People have incredibly short memories.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

FFS Canada, don't let them take your healthcare. Let the US serve as a warning. I don't know how you save yours, but you've got a lot of smart people. Figure it out before your healthcare goes in the shitter like ours.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We are forecast to elect the largest conservative majority since 1984, while all our major provinces are run by conservative governments.

Our healthcare is cooked.

Many provinces are already hamstringing it and replacing chunks with private clinics, while trying to freeze and reduce pay for healthcare workers (in Ontario that only only get reversed by the superior court).

https://338canada.com/federal.htm

[–] zephorah@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Wow. Punishing nurses? Pushing nurses towards poverty?

These are probably the same people who won’t want to pay them on the private side either.

Chain reaction: less nurses. Less other healthcare staff. Less staff means more patients for each nurse. Which means crappier and more dangerous care.

Brilliant, these guys. Stellar long term goals too.

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Health care up here is controlled at the province level. Alberta is basically Texas, in that for the last century, it's been controlled by a huge conservative majority.

If Alberta actually forces this through, I know I'm not the only one that will be looking to move.

[–] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hey, we elected Rachel Notley once!

[–] Godort@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And she was the best premier we ever had despite what the bumper stickers on every lifted F150 would have you believe.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Earlier this month, Smith told a United Conservative Party town hall in Drayton Valley, Alta., that she will look to transfer authority in some cases in an effort to create competition and "fear" among providers.

The policy shift would be part of a bigger plan first announced last year by Smith to dismantle Alberta Health Services, or AHS, the provincial authority tasked with delivering front-line care.

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 months ago

What she knows and they don't is that there is never competition between commercial providers of healthcare. America's been trying that experiment for years.

What it gets - since there is never enough healthcare - is massive disparity in public and private services (if any public ones are left) based on your HMO's ability to pay.

This is a challenge to our charter.