I don't have an issue with paying for people who make long-form video content, or people who post actual real long-form blog posts, or newsletters of interest but microblog shit?

There's barely enough of interest there to justify reading it most of the time, let alone paying for it.

Tweets and toots are just advertisement for the actual content, not the actual content, IMO.

This would be more interesting if it was a way to monetize Peertube or the various blogging platforms that are federated.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 25 points 5 days ago

The overall idea behind sub.club is simple: people can pay a set amount of recurring donations, and gain access to posts from a private ActivityPub account for exclusive content. Creators using sub.club post private DM’s to their sub.club actor, and these messages get relayed into the private feed. Creators display their sub.club account handles in their profile fields, and apps such as Mammoth and Ice Cubes can read that value, and display a special subscription button.

Okay so it's Patreon for microblogging. Why not, if there is an audience.

Thinking about it, a federated OnlyFans could be an interesting concept.

At first I thought it was paid instances of established platforms, a la https://communick.com/services/lemmy/

[–] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 22 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I think paid instances are fine. Provided they actually provide more reliability, etc. although right now, many free instances are reliable enough. And a subscription cost to run your own single or friend group instance probably wouldn't be much either.

Although I could see a paid service which runs an instance for you, but you get to use your own domain name and such. Kind of like those Minecraft hosting services. Okay, I'm on another tangent.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 4 points 5 days ago

If people are looking for such service, there is https://communick.com/services/lemmy, managed by @rglullis@communick.news

[–] __init__@programming.dev 19 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Having to sign up to yet another platform to support someone’s work can introduce a lot of unnecessary friction

To solve this, here’s yet another platform

[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

The difference here is that you literally sign in with your existing Fediverse identity.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 11 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Fuck off.

Stop monetising everything, let us just enjoy our space without injecting business into it.

[–] deadsuperhero@lemmy.world 25 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Some of the people in the space are tired of panhandling, and would like to actually get paid for things they do. This can include: covering monthly instance costs, selling subscriptions to premium articles for a newspaper, supporting a video creator on PeerTube, or donating to an open source project. A subscription system is one way of doing that.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And some of the people are tired of capitalism being injected into everything.

Why can we not just have a space where people can be people without monetising it?

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I understand your sentiment, but you do realize that in the end someone has to pay to keep that space running, right?

[–] 3w0@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I too wish for luxury gay space communism

[–] Badabinski@kbin.earth 7 points 5 days ago

Don't forget fully automated!

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 5 days ago

If you’re that cheap, you can register on this instance. I can assure you the owner has zero interest in making you pay for using it.

Small communities being run and paid for by self owned admins is nothing new and with how cheap it all is these days is even less of an issue.

If you really need donations, there are a million ko-fi like services.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago

Seconded. Commercialism and monetizing everything is what caused the www to rot. We don't need it here. Neoliberalism has already robbed generations of the right to simply exist or create without a profit motive, among other things, like literacy. Pretty sick of it.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No u. Some people are tired of leeches.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah that’s why I’m telling them to fuck off.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I don't think you understand what a leech is...

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure it’s the people latching and trying to extract blood (money) from us the content creators.

If Lemmy or Reddit was simply a list of shared URLs without user interactions no one would use these sites.

The posters are the content, we are not your personal business platform, we are people wanting to engage with other people.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sure it’s the people latching and trying to extract blood (money) from us the content creators.

LOL no, it's the people demanding that everyone should work for you and ask for nothing return.

This service helps creators...

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

No one is demanding they work for us.

We’re demanding they don’t come here and demand money. If they don’t want to provide content for free like the rest of us, we don’t mind them not being here.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one is demanding they work for us.

When you insist that everything is free, that's exactly what you're doing...

If they don’t want to provide content for free like the rest of us, we don’t mind them not being here.

And who made you King of the fedi? Who are you to decide that everything has to be free?

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No one is demanding them full stop. If you want to make us pay, we don’t want you. That’s an un-demand.

I’m one voice of a community. As you can tell from many of the other posts in here, it seems to be a majority sentiment on the majority leftist Fediverse.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

No one is demanding them full stop.

Weird, "fuck off" sounds a lot like a demand...

If you want to make us pay, we don’t want you.

Who is "we"?

I’m one voice of a community.

My point, exactly.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 3 points 5 days ago

The point is, we are enjoying free content without any advertising and monetisation slapped on. If that happens, then we just leave, we are not demanding free content, we just consume it because it exists. The donation model is the only one that works in this space, or this space fails as another attempt at capitalism where it wasn't needed or requested.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 3 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Don’t be obtuse.

Demand as in want, not demand as in order.

We is the community.

And the majority of the community agrees. My voices and theirs reflect that.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 9 points 5 days ago

Politely: fuck no

Donations? Sure, but there already is stuff that does exactly that.

Subscription for microblogging? Absolutely no, especially not with a centralized, proprietary platform. Don’t start making mastodon twitter. Build your own platform or make your own instances if you have to, but don’t plug into instances without asking and if you ask pay them for the infrastructure they are providing for you service.

[–] astro_ray@piefed.social 6 points 5 days ago

Does this work work for anything other than mastodon?

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

Go capitalize somewhere else.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

absolutely fucking not

[–] rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I'm not totally sure of the wisdom involved in gating content when ActivityPub and the Fediverse are still so new and niche.

If you're putting out premium content that doesn't affect the existing communities, whatever, I don't care. But I do have to wonder how you're actually going to make money when most users are used to free content.

Wouldn't it be easier to use Ko-fi or similar?

[–] aasatru@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago

A lot of people use Mastodon as an RSS feed where they can leave comments. This would basically allow you to subscribe to the content of a writer, and get it full-form straight in your feed.

I could also imagine following artists on Pixelfed, throwing money in their tip jar to keep posted on their newest creations.

I think there's a lot of potential here. But monetisation is always tricky on the internet, of course.