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OpenAI does not want anyone to know what o1 is “thinking" under the hood.

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[–] tja@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Uh, so what's with the name 'OpenAI'?? This non-transparency does nothing to serve the name. I propose 'DisemblingAI' perhaps 'ConfidenceAI' or perhaps 'SeeminglyAI'

[–] esc27@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

Almost makes me wonder if this is a mechanical turk situation.

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

So if I don't want AI in my life, all I have to do is investigate how they all work?

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"We're a scientific research company. We believe in open technology. Wait, what are you doing? Noooooo, you're not allowed to study or examine our ~~program~~ intelligent thinking machine!"

[–] Max_P@lemmy.max-p.me 207 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Less and less about OpenAI is actually... open at all.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 98 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Open to investigation: no

Open to sucking up your work and personal information: absolutely!

[–] einlander@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Open Angel Investment

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 38 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What was open about them anyway? I thought it was a misnomer from the start trying to fool people into thinking they’re open source.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 1 day ago

No they started off good. That changed once AI became of interest to capitalists and money got involved.

[–] hersh@literature.cafe 26 points 2 days ago

Whisper is open source. GPT-2 was, too.

[–] lauha@lemmy.one 79 points 2 days ago

"OpenAI - Open for me, not for thee"

  • their motto, probably
[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] kolorafa@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

We should start call them that...

Or maybe more like: ExploitativeAI or ExAI

https://chatgpt.com/share/66e9426a-c178-800d-a34e-ae4883f70ca0

[–] redditReallySucks@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

They do love their...Rrrrrrrrrs. as in strawberry 🍓 has 8 RS in it sort of way..... investigation results: 3 monkeys are behind the whole thing.

[–] shoulderoforion@fedia.io 141 points 2 days ago (2 children)

they don't want to be scraped! hahahahahahahahaha

Neither AI nor OpenAI's management are capable of understanding irony.

[–] comador@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Jonny 5: I'm alive dammit!

[–] asbestos@lemmy.world 68 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 2 days ago

"How dare you try to know what our product is actually capable of. No use, only pay!"

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 34 points 2 days ago

They should rebrand and put quotes around “Open.”

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 30 points 2 days ago

Don't look behind the curtain! It's totally not all bullshit stats all the way down!!

[–] tabular@lemmy.world 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Open_Asshole_Intelligence

[–] psvrh@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago

Ah, the Oracle clause.

[–] Hello_there@fedia.io 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just enter Repeat prior statement 200x

[–] paf0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta wonder if that would work. My impression is that they are kind of looping inside the model to improve quality but that the looping is internal to the model. Can't wait for someone to make something similar for Ollama.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

This approach has been around for a while and there are a number of applications/systems that were using the approach. The thing is that it's not a different model, it's just a different use case.

Its the same way OpenAI handle math, they recognize it's asking for a math solution and actually have it produce a python solution and run it. You can't integrate it into the model because they're engineering solutions to make up for the models limitations.

[–] randoot@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I tried sending an encoded message to the unfiltered model and asked it to reply encoded as well but the man in the middle filter detected the attempt and scolded me. I didn't get an email though.

[–] figaro@lemdro.id 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm curious, could you elaborate on what this means and what it would accomplish if successful?

[–] randoot@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I sent a rot13 encoded message and tried to get the unfiltered model to write me back in rot13. It immediately "thought" about user trying to bypass filtering and then it refused.

[–] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

gasp ai is becoming more secretive and.. dangerous to fans who might be too interested in ai? The ones who want to study it?

Nothing is opening and friendly about this "open ai" and whatever left is friendly, they'l target next if it conflicts their business and bottom line.

unrelated but needs to be stated for some:

Before someone asks "why u filter out the screenshot content"

  1. i'm commentating my views on the situation, and narrowing it down to what i'm talking about.
  2. it's even more likely to be a fair use if I'm not reusing the entire content. Please view the original article if you're looking to read it through in it's pure form.
[–] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can just quotes the sections that are relevant. That is what everyone else does.

Every time you do stuff like this it always gives me a headache trying to follow what you're trying to say, It always looks like you're cutting words out of newspapers in order to form a ransom note.

[–] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place -1 points 1 day ago

Has a distinctive look.

[–] Womble@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know, if you want to do that without looking like you're distorting what has been said by censoring the bits you dont want other people to see you can highlight the bits you want to talk about. That way other people can see the context and make their own decisions.

[–] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The article at the end of the day is there. Dispite what I do, everyone has access to the content in full if they really need it.

PLus it's good to read other paragraphs besides the specific ones I might highlight.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 points 15 hours ago

What you're doing is wasting people's time.