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What happened in the vegan community?

I hadn't heard about any of this until seeing that ToS post.

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[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The long and short of it is, One of the lemmy.world admins demoted a mod of the vegan community over a comment about how cat can be fed a 100% vegan diet with supplements and the cat will be fine.

[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (70 children)

What an asshole vegan. How stupid can you be to say you love animals and say something as dumb as this

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I once gave a vegan friend of mine pause for thought when I pointed out that we probably shouldn't be keeping pets in the first place if those pets aren't in their natural habitat doing what their species evolved to do. They had cats.

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

A good thought, if you are planning to buy one from a breeder! Don't do that (unless you are a farmer who needs a very specific breed of working dog). By adopting instead, you can ethically have a companion, imo. The animal life already exists, so by giving it a good home, you're engaging in harm reduction. Don't forget to slay and neuter those pets!

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[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Wtf is happening in the comments. Why are people getting so insane over this topic over and over again? If there's cat food out there that's nutritional complete, cats like it, and it happens to be plant based - so what? The only two reasons to object are if someone is 100% convinced such a product doesn't and cannot exist or if they're entirely ideological about it. And if we have to apply the naturalistic fallacy that only the natural way can be morally okay, why of all things argue about pet food? I really, really don't get it why people get so intensely emotional about it.

[–] ngwoo@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If there's cat food out there that's nutritional complete, cats like it, and it happens to be plant based - so what?

Because the vegan cat food that claims to be nutritionally complete isn't. Whenever these brands have their products studied they turn out to not be nutritionally complete. Feeding them to a cat is abuse.

[–] Mrs_deWinter@feddit.org 1 points 10 months ago

So they should simply start producing one that is. Problem solved. No law of nature prevents us from supplementing the right amount of taurine and b12, so there is no reason to be irrational about it.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If only this was readily researchable....

But yeah, animal cruelty gets people het up. This is the internet, don't fuck with cats

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I couldn't appreciate the visual sea lion anymore.What is gish galloping, which I would also appreciate a visual reference for if available.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Gish galloping is talking over the person you're arguing with to tire them out and / or interrupt them

Commenting with long text walls asking someone to refute this or that or respond to a series of questions is usually the online equivalent of that

You​ ​​ever ​​​see​ ​​those​ ​​comment​ ​​chains ​​​with vеgаns constantly responding to someone until the person they're responding to gives up, that can be considered Gish-galloping

Obviously with online comments you can't talk while another person is talking

[–] hate2bme@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is eating lab grown meat vegan?

[–] Fosheze@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Not yet. Growing cells in a lab still requires fetal bovine serum which is obviously an animal product. There is work going into replacing it with a synthetic alternative but, to my knowledge, noone has been successful yet.

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