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Andrew McCabe says Trump-Putin interactions ‘raise questions’, as Harris says Putin would eat Trump ‘for lunch’

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[–] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just for shits and giggles, let's say he is, and the absolute fact of it comes to light. Then what? Is that war on Russia? They infiltrated the highest office of our country and attempted to overthrow the government. That's war, right? You can't just sanction that away.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They infiltrated the highest office of our country and attempted to overthrow the government. That’s war, right?

considering how many times we've actually overthrown peoples governments to our own ends, turnabout would just be fair play - least we better hope it's not something people will go to war over because there's a long list of potential enemies

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

By no means do I want to diminish the historical wrongheadedness of the US, but using that as a justification for letting Russia just have at it without any response is just categorically asinine.

We’re already in the Second Cold War. It’s here now.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Part of not being blind to your own jingoism is understanding how your actions affect others- I'm not saying that it's OK to coup or attempt to undermine governments with media operations, I'm saying that if we're going to act like this is suddenly some sort of mortal sin after decades of doing that ourselves, people aren't going to take it seriously. It's certainly not going to make outside observers think that we're a reasonable actor who's simply under attack by authoritarians. Purely for riling up the base.