Just an FYI, this poster has no problem with Trump being re-elected.
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I don't care if Trump is elected as I am not afraid of him. I don't like him, but I am not afraid of him. And I don't think he has any chance of winning.
And I'm not voting for him.
And for the record, I have said that many times. So your screenshot is no "gotcha" since I have said it in several comments.
And I stand by what I said.
Also, for the record, if I DID want to vote for him, that would be my right. It's not against the law to vote for Trump. He's an idiot and I don't know why people would want to vote for him, but it's not against the law. So calm down.
Exactly who claimed voting for trump is illegal? Absolutely braindead
Hey, genius, no one ever said it was illegal. Just shows how uninformed and, quite frankly, idiotic your stance is. If you don't see Trump as a threat to democracy, the so-called thing you're supposedly all about, and the one thing that's allowing you to speak your mind about the idiotic things you "believe" then you're just as bad as someone voting for him.
Hey, genius, no one ever said it was illegal.
Good. So you can calm down. Almost half of the country is not voting for your candidate. Welcome to democracy.
I'm not scared of Trump. I don't care how mad that makes you. You can be scared of him. That's totally your right. I respect your rights, you can respect mine.
I’m of two minds on this. I feel like this is a little bit of undemocratic action that is in service of preventing much more massive undemocratic action from happening.
- Stein’s candidacy, with Trump on the ballot, is a risk to democracy. She’s not on all the ballots, the odds of her winning are basically impossible, and she can only really help the guy who attempted a coup.
- If the state guided the Greens to use the form without county names, removing them from the ballot for this technically is pretty petty and arguably undemocratic.
We need ranked choice voting nationally.
We need ranked choice voting nationally.
Agreed!
The Green Party literally turned in a referrendum form instead of a ballot form. The judge approved what they turned in.
This fuckup is 1000000% the fault of the unserious members of the local Green Party. They may as well have signed it in crayon too.
Maybe next time, The Greens can take their jobs seriously and run a serious candidate and file the correct forms instead of whinging at the Democrats for their own mistake.
Now the question is: is Jill Stein 🤔?. The people will let democracy decide on their ballots.
The people will let democracy decide on their ballots
Agreed.
The green party is the "thoughts and prayers" of American politics. Sounds good, but doesn't really do anything.
They must be doing something, because the Democrats and people in this thread are pretty mad at them.
It's not at all like that. People are just sick of your inflammatory bs. We all see what you're doing, and it's all bad faith through and through.
People are just sick of your inflammatory bs.
So posting political news articles is "inflammatory bs" now?!
I didn't write the articles, friend.
We all see what you’re doing
And what is that?
They aren't a real political party if they don't have lawyers who keep up with local election law. If DSA and Libertarians can follow the law with ease so can the greens. They have no excuse at all and should build an actual party instead of only popping up for the presidential elections like leeches.
I have no problem with rules and regulations. And if they don't follow them, and get dinged for it, then I'm ok with that too.
Just to save everyone time, OP is here to spread propaganda that benefits the GOP and their electoral chances because they (wrongly and incredibly moronically) feel it will help their own political goals.
Regardless of their supposed political views they claim to have, this has been pointed out ad infinitum and they only respond with bad faith arguments and deflection. Everything they have posted here should be disregarded in its entirety until they want to stop playing games.
Jill Stein is not a serious person.
Just to save everyone time, OP is here to spread propaganda that benefits the GOP and their electoral chances because they (wrongly and incredibly moronically) feel it will help their own political goals.
Just what do you think my political goals are? I'm not voting GOP. Never have. Never will.
Is this community only for pro-Harris content?
Because the name of the community is "Politics." The community is not named "Pro-Harris Only News."
Take a look at the sidebar. If you feel the news article I posted is against the community rules, please contact the mods. Thank you!
Jill Stein is not a serious person.
Serious enough that you are mad about her.
The Uni party loves democracy.
Yep. They prove it every election by throwing a fit whenever people are given more voting options. lol
And yet, lots of people just blindly support them. Not me, though!
Where is the green party the other 3.5 years of every election cycle. Poof like ghosts.
The greens have never helped America in any way.
They are not a viable 3rd party cuz they can't get to 270.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Green_politicians_who_have_held_office_in_the_United_States (thanks to @SyntaxTerror@feddit.org for the info)
State-Level Green Party Officials (Former)
- Shane Robinson - Maryland, House, District 39 (2011-2019)
- Henry Bear - Maine, House, District 144 (2013-2019)
- Ralph Chapman - Maine, House, District 133 (2010-2019)
- Fred Smith - Arkansas, House, District 50 (2011-2015)
- Richard Carroll - Arkansas, House, District 39 (2009-2011)
- John Eder - Maine, House, District 118 (2003-2007)
- Matt Ahearn - New Jersey, General Assembly, District 38 (2002-2004)
- Audie Bock - California, State Assembly, District 16 (1999-2000)
Current Green Party Mayors
- Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois (2021-2025)
- Bruce Delgado - Marina, California (2008-2024)
- Emmanuel Estrada - Baldwin Park, California (2020-2024)
Former Green Party Mayors
- John Reed - Fairfax, California
- Mike Feinstein - Santa Monica, California
- David Doonan - Greenwich, New York
- Kelley Wearvering - Cordova, Alaska
- Robb Davis - Davis, California
- Peter Gleichman - Ward, Colorado
- Jim Sullivan - Victory, New York
- Jason West - New Paltz, New York
Current Green Party City & County Council Members
- Sylvia R. Chavez - Calipatria, California
- David Conley - Douglas County, Wisconsin
- Josiah Dean - Dufur, Oregon
- Becky Elder - Manitou Springs, Colorado
- Bob Gifford - Portage County, Wisconsin
- Renée Goddard - Fairfax, California
- David Grover - Trinidad, California
- Damon Jespersen - Newbury, Massachusetts
- John Keener - Pacifica, California
- Rebecca Kemble - Madison, Wisconsin
- Paul Pitino - Arcata, California
- Marsha A. Rummel - Madison, Wisconsin
- George P. Steeves - Southbridge, Massachusetts
- Anna Trevorrow - Portland, Maine
- Daniel Welsh - Lewisboro, New York
- Heidi Weigleitner - Dane County, Wisconsin
- Stephen Zollman - Sebastopol, California
Former Green Party City & County Council Members
- Peter Schwartzman - Galesburg, Illinois
- George Altgelt - Laredo, Texas
- Michael Beilstein - Corvallis, Oregon
- Bruce Delgado - Marina, California
- Jessica Bradshaw - Carbondale, Illinois
- Michael Cornell - River Hill Village
- Jennifer Dotson - Ithaca, New York
- Kathleen Fitzpatrick - Mosier, Oregon
- Gail Garrett - Mount Washington, Massachusetts
- Matt Gonzalez - San Francisco, California
- Cam Gordon - Minneapolis, Minnesota
- Art Goodtimes - San Miguel County, Colorado
- Daniel Hamburg - Mendocino County, California
- Michelle Haynes - Norwood, Colorado
- Gary Hull - Sharpsburg, Maryland
- Tanya Ishikawa - Federal Heights, Colorado
- Brian Kehoe - Catskill, New York
- Jason Kirkpatrick - Arcata, California
- Mary Jo Long - Afton, New York
- Tom Mair - Grand Traverse County, Michigan
- Sarah Marsh - Fayetteville, Arkansas
- Merrily Mazza - Lafayette, Colorado
- Gayle McLaughlin - Richmond, California
- Ross Mirkarimi - San Francisco, California
- Leland Pan - Dane County, Wisconsin
- Dona Spring - Berkeley, California
- Chuck Turner - Boston, Massachusetts
Other Green Party Local Officials (Current)
- Michael Clary - Coos County, Oregon
- Jennifer Baker - Napa Valley College, California
- Matthew Clark - San Mateo County
- Billy Gene Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
- Carl D'Amato - Waterford, Connecticut
- Daphne Dixon - Fairfield, Connecticut
- Matt Donahue - Benton County, Oregon
- Maureen Doyle - Southbridge, Massachusetts
- Andrew Frascarelli - Waterford, Connecticut
- Frank Gatti - Amherst, Massachusetts
- Michael Paul Hansen - Humboldt County, California
- Jane Jarlsberg - San Bernardino County, California
- Joshua Steele Kelly - Waterford, Connecticut
- Vincent O'Connor - Amherst, Massachusetts
- Sharron Parra - Hyampom, California
- Vahe Peroomian - Glendale Community College, California
- John Powell - Montecito, California
- Colleen Ann Reidy - Thompsonville, Connecticut
- Rebecca Rotzler - New Paltz, New York
- Leif Smith - Redding, Connecticut
- Darcy Van Ness - Waterford, Connecticut
- Baird Welch-Collins - Waterford, Connecticut
- Randy Marx - Fair Oaks Water District, Sacramento County, California
- Fred McCann - Portland Water District, Portland, Maine
- Garrett Erven - Red Wing, Minnesota
Other Green Party Local Officials (Former)
- John Amarilios - New Canaan, Connecticut
- Korie Blyveis - Newberg Township, Michigan
- Hector Lopez - New Canaan, Connecticut
- Kim O'Connor - Hillsborough County, Florida
- Jill Stein - Lexington, Massachusetts
- Raymond C. Meyer - Lucas County He
To cut through the nonsense and save everyone time, especially since many in this community have a habit of resorting to personal attacks when responding to my posts recently: I support and respect everyone’s right to vote for who they want to.
I'm just posting this article that’s already available on a much bigger platform than Lemmy—I didn’t write it, just sharing it for discussion.
I’m clarifying all of this due to past posters refusing to refrain from insults, as well as repeated baseless accusations that I’m a Republican, Russian, and/or that I'm not even an American citizen (sorry guys, I'm all American)
So I'd prefer we stick to discussing the article’s politics rather than focusing on me personally, if you'd like to engage with me. Now if you wanna just talk crap about me but not talk to me, then feel free. But I don't really think that fits in with the spirit of this awesome community.
I’m not here to prove anything to you. I’ll keep posting content that fits the community’s guidelines, and if you feel otherwise, the mods are available. Thank you!
What bugs me a lot about this is that the state govt officials messed up. There's no accountability though - what consequences will ensure to the state official who gave the wrong information?
I suppose the Green Party could have tried to submit both versions of the forms at once, but also hindsight is 20/20.
I worry that this might end up as a prototype to disqualify the Dems in other states, in particular the currently GOP-led battleground states. Then the only big party that ends up on the ballot is the GOP.
Really it's just a sign how bad the system in the US is for federal elections that Dems resort to suing to keep third parties off the ballot. I don't agree with it and I'd like for a system where it wasn't necessary.
More choices should be better but I feel that I'm forced to strategically vote Dem because of the dumb first past the post system that we have here.
And with all the strategic voters voting for one of the two big parties, it leaves way too few votes for those who are willing to risk it on a smaller party. So the barrier to pull in strategic voters is just too high.
The GOP does it too - remember RFK? It's pretty blatant that he was just a spoiler to pull votes away from Biden to help the other guy win - once Biden dropped out and Harris became the nominee, then RFK eventually dropped his campaign - and then join the GOP's candidate's campaign.
In other countries I could theoretically vote for their version of the Green Party as my 1st choice, and then the Dems as my 2nd choice. Heck, I can do that in Alaska or Maine.
Really it’s just a sign how bad the system in the US is for federal elections that Dems resort to suing to keep third parties off the ballot. I don’t agree with it and I’d like for a system where it wasn’t necessary.
I totally agree. And all of your other points are solid too. Great post!