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The move embodies how ads are a growing and virtually inescapable part of the TV-viewing experience—even when you're not watching anything.

As you might have expected, LG didn’t make a big, splashy announcement to consumers or LG TV owners about this new ad format. Instead, and ostensibly strategically, the September 5 announcement was made to advertisers. LG appears to know that screensaver ads aren't a feature that excites users. Still, it and many other TV makers are happy to shove ads into the software of already-purchased devices.

LG TV owners may have already spotted the ads or learned about them via FlatpanelsHD, which today reported seeing a full-screen ad on the screensaver for LG's latest flagship TV, the G4. “The ad appeared before the conventional screensaver kicks in," per the website, “and was localized to the region the TV was set to.”

LG has put these ads on by default, according to FlatpanelsHD, but you can disable them in the TVs' settings. Still, the introduction of ads during a screensaver, shown during a pause in TV viewing that some TVs use as an opportunity to show art or personal photos that amplify the space, illustrates the high priority that ad dollars and tracking have among today’s TVs—even new top-of-the-line ones.

The addition of screensaver ads that users can disable may sound like a comparatively smaller disruption as far as TV operating system (OS) ads go. But the incorporation of new ad formats into TV OSes' various nooks and crannies is a slippery slope. Some TV brands are even centered more on ads than selling hardware. Unfortunately, it’s up to OS operators and TV OEMs to decide where the line is, including for already-purchased TVs. User and advertiser interests don’t always align, making TV streaming platforms without third-party ads, such as Apple TV, increasingly scarce gems.

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[–] elrik@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

My TV is probably going to kick the bucket in a year or two at most. Filtering "non smart TVs" on a site like BestBuy shows only commercial display options at this point.

Are there any well maintained projects out there that are able to replace the firmware on newer smart TVs to get rid of these features? I really just want a dumb display with an input for a Chromecast with CEC support (or similar device if Google decides to enshittify that platform with screensaver ads too).

[–] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Just don't connect it to the internet and it's a dumb display, simple as that

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Probably the best idea I guess as long as you can set the TV up without Internet.

[–] Eiri@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

For now. I suspect some evil person will eventually think of baking in default ads for when it can't connect to the network to get new ones.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

If you want a Chromecast, why not just buy a TV that runs on Google TV (Android) instead?

[–] elrik@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

The TV I currently have is Android OS but the built in Chromecast is noticeably lower quality. Not sure if it's an older version or what.

Regardless, IMO the displays themselves outlast their software support, and I prefer to just plug in whatever the latest device.

I'll also mention Android OS on my TV takes a full minute to "boot" and that itself makes me want to yeet it out the window.

[–] marito@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Because it is easier to upgrade a streaming device than a whole-ass TV.

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[–] automattable@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is there an OLED tv on the market now that doesn’t just exist to sell ads?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Maybe Sony.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

LOL, they are basically billboards that you purchase to display ads at home!

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well this sucks. i'm on my 4th LG TV because I can't stand the quality from other brands; but when the choice is ads vs picture quality, i'll take the inferior quality every single time. fuck ads.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

Sony makes teevees from lg and Sammy panels... I think they are slightly better privacy ads wise but few hundred bucks more than similar models from manufacturers

[–] wingsfortheirsmiles@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Well that sucks, ironically I connected my C2 to the net for the NFL gamepass sub I'm actually paying for. Guess it's back to illegal streams on the desktop PC

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Okay, I have to wonder... what is the point of shoving ads down user's throats all the time? Ads make me NOT want to purchase something. If I see ads for a product it just makes me hate that product. If a product pushes ads I hate that too.

[–] LunchMoneyThief@links.hackliberty.org 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The primary goal is to simply get the information inside your mind. Whether you like or dislike it doesn't really matter. That preexisting brand/product familiarity is often all that is needed to tip the scales months or years down the road, once you've "forgotten" all about the annoying ad, while you find yourself deciding between competing products on a shelf or on a store page.

[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I can see it working when you otherwise have NO brand recognition whatsoever, but seeing ads for, say, TikTok on YouTube every 30 seconds isn't going to convince me to get a TikTok. I'm never going to be "gee I wonder what short form video content provider I should subscribe to" and even if that somehow miraculously DID happen, I'm going to research my decision and not just arbitrarily make a decision based on a notion I might have heard about a product one time months/years ago. Maybe if I didn't have a computer in my pocket at all times where I could get unbiased reviews on demand that would work but definitely not in modern times. But apparently I'm in the minority.

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[–] Chozo@fedia.io 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your TV doesn't need a screensaver. You can just... turn it off.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

for now

Soon that feature will be premium only.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You can still turn it off. Not much they can do about your turning it off at the wall.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

A battery and a cell modem.

[–] Nexy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

Dystrophic...

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Now I'm glad I never bought an LG TV.

[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

If i ever get the chance to live alone in a place i can call my own, i wont own a TV. Fuck this shit.

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