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For everyone reading this, if you have thoughts or opinions on the subject, please direct them to the original post to centralize the discussion. Thank you.

I would like to see more peoples perspectives to try and achieve a middle ground with whether the mod should be kept or not.

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[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 33 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can’t fathom how anyone, besides a bigot, would want a mod to remove an option, that they are free to not choose, from a video game. It's like a mod for BG3 that removes the wizard class from character creation because you don't want to play a wizard.

The people who don’t care for choosing pronouns, chose one just fine. They didn’t quit the game during character creation and look for a mod to remove a choice, that they were free to not choose.

JFC.

[–] averyminya@beehaw.org 19 points 2 years ago

I may have tried to given the benefit of the doubt if it were like, during chara creation after the name is made you can't continue until you select from the drop-down, thereby forcing players to choose? (Even then, what a ridiculous thing to complain about.)

But it's not even that. If you choose male or female you have to actively click on the pronoun to bring up the menu to even change it. When first coming across it I almost passed right by it, only noticing it at all because I can read. You have to actively go out of your way to utilize the mechanic.

It just makes no sense for it to be an issue outside of people looking to create problems. And hate.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you'd like to engage in a debate on this topic, I invite you to bring your arguments to the original post where the discussion is centralized. This will help maintain a focused and meaningful conversation. Thank you.

[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gonna be real honest here, there’s no 'debate' to be had here. Anyone thinking there is a debate to be had here probably has ulterior motives and is being disingenuous.

No one should normalize this 'debate'.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The purpose of centralizing the discussion is to understand various perspectives on platform moderation. While you may see the issue as settled, other individuals may have questions or viewpoints they'd like to explore. Declining to engage in debate doesn't nullify the merit of the discussion for others who are genuinely interested in dissecting the subject matter.

[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah, I'm good. I skimmed it and I see 2 view points, everyone who thinks it's stupid, and you trying to keep the party going.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

In the words of JFK, 'One person can make a difference, and everyone should try.'

[–] HumbleFlamingo@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

The full quote is:

“John Kennedy believed so strongly that one’s aim should not just be the most comfortable life possible, but that we should all do something to right the wrongs we see, and not just complain about them. We owe that to our country, and our country will suffer if we don’t serve her. He believed that one man can make a difference – and that every man should try.“

And it was Former First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy who said it.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago

Is the difference you’re trying to make to get everyone to lend validity to the notion of even discussing allowing the transphobic mod?

[–] MrZee@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ever heard of Sealioning? Look it up. That’s you. Your posts are dripping with pseudo-intellectual “just asking questions” spittle.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Sealioning is often a tactic used to derail conversations, but that's not my intent here. I genuinely want to explore the community standards that dictate mod removals. If you find that pseudo-intellectual, perhaps it's because the questions themselves are inherently complex and require intellectual discussion.

[–] pixel@beehaw.org 32 points 2 years ago

I think the mod is fucking stupid and entirely unnecessary but the guy that made it is well within his rights to make it, in much the same way that I and nexusmods are more than within their rights to say this guy's an idiot, and nexusmods is in a position to do something about it. if he's able to express free speech by making his mod in the first place, he is not exempt from the consequence of that expression of his right lol

[–] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't confirm it but some comments in that post state that the mod author was spewing bigotry, transphobia, etc. In the description of the mod, in which case, it absolutely should've been taken down, regardless of the actual content of the mod. That being said, they are a privately owned website and they can choose what they will and won't host; even without the mod description, it is justified.

[–] 50gp@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

these types of mods are posted in bad faith to generate controversy so its not surprising when they get removed

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for your input. Could you please post your comment on the original post? It would be more constructive to have all viewpoints and discussions centralized there for a more comprehensive dialogue.

[–] Seathru@beehaw.org 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Nexus should be able to ultimately decide what they do/don't host on their platform. Regardless what it is. They have many mods that aren't my taste. I don't install them.

[–] librechad@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Thank you for sharing your perspective. I agree that Nexus, as a private platform, has the prerogative to decide what content to host. The focus of my original post was not on the content itself, but on the criteria for moderation. If you'd like to engage further, please post your comment on the original discussion for a more centralized dialogue.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay, i'm a bit confused, but why is this

  1. A discussion about a discussion about a discussion?

  2. Not a properly linked discussion, but rather a direct link to the instance?

[–] bermuda@beehaw.org 8 points 2 years ago

OP got mad that users on lemm.ee downvoted his post and a lot of his comments and is trying to rally support... from beehaw of all places.

that's my best guess.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think nexus mods should remove the mod. 99.99% of people will just scroll past the mod. Removing the mod gives it publicity and vindicates the author.

Its insulting to me that nexus mods doesn't respect their users enough to give them the choice to install it or not. They think they need to shield us from what is ultimately a dumb meme mod.

[–] luxyr42@lemmy.dormedas.com 5 points 2 years ago

Why have there been so many threads about this? Are you associated with the mod or maker or something trying to keep them going or something? Just keep seeing your name associated with it.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 2 years ago

Uh uh.

checks op's history

obvious sea lioning

blocked

Anyway...