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One should be at the bottom one at the top. I understand space on the phone is a premium but a second port would make the phone so much more usable. Wired headphones, flash drives, camera modules, speaker modules, keyboards, even connection to a TV, all could be used while charging. It's a shame it's not a thing, USB is extremely versatile port, but you only get one and it's used for charging half of the time. (I am aware dongles exist)

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[–] Zak@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wired headphones... could be used while charging

Sure is a shame nobody ever came up with a way to do that before.

[–] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 65 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The person who decided a headphone jack is superfluous should be found, tarred, feathered, and left naked and alone deep in the alaskan wilderness covered in pigs blood for the wildlife to enjoy.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I believe Steve Jobs is already dead. And those who inherited his billions probably don't mind all those extra AirPod sales, especially if people keep losing them.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jobs died before the headphone jack was removed (iphone 7 in 2016, while Jobs died in 2011).

The villain we're looking for is Jony Ive, Apple's product designer until 2019. All other companies just copied Apple's lead so if there is a responsible party, it's him.

[–] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Yea fuck him too, bit ol' Steve was quite a fan of the whole "remove every slightly extra option and then sell it back to the user" way of doing business.

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[–] SJ0@lemmy.fbxl.net 12 points 1 year ago

Steve Jobs died in 2011, the headphone jack disappeared from the iPhone 7 in 2016.

[–] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 1 year ago

It wasn't Steve Jobs who took it away. Steve Jobs probably would have taken it away, but he also probably would have insisted on developing a technically superior but proprietary wireless technology.

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[–] Todgerdickinson@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They should also be be required to use a dongle for every tool they use to survive with a limit of only 1 tool at a time

[–] morrowind@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

I hate how we're stuck in a limbo between headphones jacks and usb-c. Like the change was bad to begin with, but if you're going to switch to usb-c, then do it fully.

USB-C for everything honestly would have been good if they had. But we're stuck in a limbo

[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 75 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port! Bring back the headphone port!

[–] Thorny_Thicket@sopuli.xyz 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It never dissapeared - you just started buying devices without one

[–] RanchOnPancakes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The selection is pretty slim.

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[–] spiderman@ani.social 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

headphone jacks are still available for mid ranged androids, even along with a charger. pretty much the only win we can get for purchasing a mid ranged androids.

[–] exu@feditown.com 15 points 1 year ago

Not being ridiculously overpriced is another advantage imo.

[–] Matt@lemdro.id 12 points 1 year ago

Sony says hi :)

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 year ago

Bring back the the headphone port!

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[–] Hazdaz@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Soon you're gonna feel lucky that your phone has even ONE port.

Give it 5 years and Apple will have removed their lightning and/or USB port and gone wireless on everything.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Apple is going to be compelled to offer USB-C as a wired charging connection in Europe if it offers a wired charging option.

[–] Fogle@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago

Which means bye bye charging port

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[–] corytheboyd@kbin.social 30 points 1 year ago

This is what life is when all viable phones are made by two giant tech companies.

[–] andyMFK@reddthat.com 28 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Weird headphones don't use ucb-c, there is already a standard for headphones and it's the 3.5mm audio jack.

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[–] lobut@lemmy.ca 28 points 1 year ago

ASUS ROG Phones have them. Also with a headphone jack I think.

[–] Humanius@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (7 children)

You can plug a USB hub into your phone. That'd give you more ports.
I'm fairly certain there are hubs out there with a pass-through for charging as well

[–] ImaginaryFox@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Having something built in is so much better than needing a dongle. There's a reason why even Apple brought back ports like hdmi and sd card slot to their Mac book pro line to eliminate even the needing a dongle for some people.

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[–] DrQuint@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We could even... Charge twice!

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

are you also aware that some phones do have 2 ports ?

just buy one of those

[–] 99nights@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago
[–] Piers@beehaw.org 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I agree. If we're going to lose the headphone port in favour of connecting to a universal connection (either directly or via an adaptor) then it's time we have two of them. As for positioning I gather that there are lots of handheld PC's with the one on top and one on bottom configuration and that it's generally accepted to be the best way (and my on top 3.5mm and on bottom USB-c seems to work pretty well) so I think you're right but it would be nice to see manufacturers try out a few different configurations to see in practise what people prefer.

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[–] rafa@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you're crazy 🀣

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wireless USB never took off. Essentials company was promisimg with PH1, it had wireless USB port. only released two wireless USB compatible devices for it though.

[–] AProfessional@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Well modern USB is great because of decent throughput, high power delivery, multiple protocols over it, and good compatibility.

Of course removing all of those didn’t work out.

You know what? As long as the second port isn't gimped in any way (can do video out + all the typical USB things), then I might forgive them for taking away the headphone jack.

[–] SillyBanana@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't relate at all. My phone is a PHONE, with options of short-term entertainment. I have other devices for other "computery" activities. I personally almost never use even my single USB-C port, thanks to wireless charging and wireless headphones. Sounds like your phone is your main device.

[–] exu@feditown.com 28 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For what current flagship phones cost they should absolutely be capable of general purpose computing.

Maybe come with a usb-c dock and screen as well for convergence.

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[–] tycho@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Many countries not so well off like us in the West do not have the luxury to have a smartphone and a computer. So options with 2 USB ports would be interesting. The bastardisation of the smartphone is a disgrace.

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[–] LucyLastic@beehaw.org 5 points 1 year ago

I very much like this idea, would be nice to be able to use a phone in more of a mini-computer manner, whereas at the moment they're somewhat hamstrung.

I'm always surprised phone docks aren't a thing, my work laptop has a USB-c dock that is bristling with ports that are useful.

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