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Things have been incredibly unstable there. Until things stabilise, they should force the traffic elsewhere.

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[–] majestictechie@lemmy.fosshost.com 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I agree. Wants the point of a decentralised platform if most of it's users are on a single instance.

Plus it's not a good look from a new users perspective if the platform appears down every few hours.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wants the point of a decentralised platform if most of it’s users are on a single instance.

It's so that users have a choice of joining different instances. If .world is particularly well managed and provides amenities for users and has the capacity, there's no reason that new users shouldn't join.

The junk communities in every instance are a problem.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It clearly doesn't have the capacity and until certain pull requests are merged, the capacity for an instance is ~2000 users, world is way over that.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

This can't be true. Lemmy world is over 100k users now. And it depends on how many are active.

But yes, it would be very beneficial to the entire lemmy network if many more instances could grow and get active communities. Right now it's like every community is from Lemmy.world or Lemmy.ml. It's stupid.

Edit: And I just checked out lemmy.world local... There are tons of posts that doesnt even federate to other instances. So the stability problems are pretty much affecting the entire fediverse now since they are so big.

Look at Lemmy world local using Voyager:

https://vger.app/posts/lemmy.world/local#galleryopen

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Which is why it keeps dropping. The way Lemmy is designed, a bunch of stuff is kept in memory. Like loading a post with a lot of comments spikes the CPU and memory, A LOT A LOT. Things are of course improving rapidly, but until fixes like that and the federation queue land, it's easy to bring a server so over capacity to its knees.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah ok. Well honestly I think it's absurd that they have so many users and communities, and I hope people take this time to spread out.

It's almost comic how everyone is on Lemmy.world when there is over a thousand other instances with zero problems.

I recommend Lemmy.today and specially if you are not afraid to post stuff. Would be nice to get some more local conversions going.

Problem is, most people are going to take one look at join-lemmy and not know what to do. It's so much easier to point people at lemmy.world or lemmy.ml.

And until very recently, small servers have had a ton of trouble finding communities on the big servers. That seems to be mostly resolved, though I still get community not found errors when I first navigate to a new community, but refreshing takes care of this. New users aren't going to know what to do with this.

Granted, many (most?) people seem to think these problems are a good thing because it keeps the normies out, but forums are nothing without people.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

It has now federated actually, but took a long time.

[–] p03locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 year ago

As I understand it, Lemmy.world's maintainer wants to own the biggest Lemmy server ever, just like they own one of the biggest Mastodon servers. It's a feature, not a bug.

[–] netburnr@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You are welcome to go to another instance to reduce lemmy.world load.

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 15 points 1 year ago

I'm not on world. I don't even have a world login. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[–] WookieMunster@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are you really trying to gatekeep the internet?

[–] sabreW4K3@lemmy.tf 19 points 1 year ago

No, I'm trying to find a solution to a very real problem. World has had at least partial outages every day for a week now. It affects everyone when it gives the impression that things don't work and people aren't able to create content to attract new people to the wider platform. But have an upvote anyway.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

What?

People can subscribe to other instances or even host their own. If the majority of users end up on the same instance then what's the point of decentralization? Even worse if the traffic it generates for that instance makes it unstable.

Should the admin do nothing until the instance is mostly down with windows of uptime throughout the day?