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[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We can't have gun control - guns aren't the problem - people are.

Oh good - you support the creation of strong social safety nets, and free access to mental health care, right?

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You support the creation of strong social safety nets, and free access to mental health care, right?

[–] HaggierRapscallier@feddit.nl 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

The people dismissing this somewhat miss the bigger picture, that statistically this had to happen because there are so many like him there.

Though I'm not sure why this guy calls the act 'fantastic', I doubt even the shooter thought what he did was fantastic, unless I'm out of the loop...

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I think by fantastic the 4channer meant "newsworthy", or "that really affects people's lives". The chances of someone with that kind of background doing something fantastic in a good sense is really small

[–] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago

In this context I read fantastic in a morally indifferent sense, as in it set him apart from others and allowed him to leave an impression on the world, albeit a hugely harmful one.

[–] Tatar_Nobility@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Fantastic could mean unusual or extraordinary.

[–] dcat@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

the child who is not embraced by its village will burn it down just to feel its warmth

[–] Someology@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There are also millions of people with intellectual challenges and horrid childhoods who do NOT go out and murder people.

[–] SchizoDenji@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

100% this is such a bad strawman.

[–] SirToxicAvenger@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago

"cruz" could have done many other things than work as a retail slave. many jobs dont require anything but muscles and a desire to learn.

[–] CaptainHowdy@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, wait that's not right! We have to blame the guns, obviously, not society. With enough "thoughts and prayers" and some extra helpings of gun control laws, no one will be desperate or depressed or rageful enough to hurt people! Don't bring your logic or nuance into the conversation or someone could get confused!

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah all we need is a good guy with a gun. Maybe a guy from the navy. No one from the military ever goes on a shooting rampage...

Maybe if we can remove...idk...the method ppl use to kill large amounts of people. No no we cant do that someone might accuse you of blaming guns.

I got it. Let's blame "society" and mental health so we can sidestep the whole icky shooting people subject and continue to do nothing about guns or mental health or society.

Great answer. Way to put a flag somewhere.

As if the 2a movement gives a fuck about nuance...lmfao

[–] Torvum@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[–] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago

Dont glamourize mass murderers.Dont even publish their names, publish the names of the victims.