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[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You mean to tell me that a flavour designed by an algorithm that can't taste or smell, or even actually think, is bad? I'm shocked.

[–] WiseassWolfOfYoitsu@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Apparently Watson, the IBM AI that won Jeopardy, is actually pretty good at making recipes. That said, this is because it analyzes chemical compositions of known good recipes to find the compounds that make us like them and finds things that can produce similar profiles, rather than just sticking strings of text together in new ways.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Pictures drawn by an algorithm that can't see, feel or even think can look pretty good. Why would this be fundamentally different for taste?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Pretty good" isn't really enough when it comes to food or drinks. Those pictures are still giving people more than five fingers on each hand. Extra legs. All kinds of things like that. Why would it do recipes any better?

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

"Pretty good" isn't really enough when it comes to food or drinks.

It is as long as the results are curated. I'm not proposing to use AI to generate new recipes for every bottle and to just sell them as-is.

Those pictures are still giving people more than five fingers on each hand. Extra legs. All kinds of things like that. Why would it do recipes any better?

But not in all pictures, and there are techniques to reduce these issues. And again, I'm not saying you connect the AI to the production machine and let it run wild. There are fully correct pictures. Why would you not be able to curate generated recipes the same way I can curate generated pictures already?

[–] MysticKetchup@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow no shit, it's going to be very annoying to see every single company try to slap AI onto their product in order to market it until the hype dies down

[–] deleted@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This reminds me of the dot com bobble.

Now you get %10000 evaluation if you slap AI in the investors powerpoint slide.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The last few flavors they came out with that were supposedly not AI created also sucked.

[–] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know why they don't just put the coke back. It'd definitely sell better than any of their recent attempts.

Step 1. Use Coca Cola tier money and influence to end the stupid drug war, changing the trajectory of millions of lives and breaking the cycle of incarceration.

Step 2. Receive praise for the immense social good you've done and bask in the once in a century marketing opportunity.

Step 3. Put the cocaine back in Coke bitch fuck yeahhhhh

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

See Futurama already explored this problem with Bender. As a robot, he can't taste food, but he learned the secret to Ultimate Flavor. It's hallucinogenics. Coca-Cola co. forgot to drop acid into their AI-generated soda. And I'm not talking about the kind that strips rust off of bumpers. Coke has enough of that in it already.

[–] LennethAegis@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, the secret ingredient was water. Ordinary water. Laced with nothing more than a few spoonfuls of LSD.

[–] bronzle@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago
[–] HonoraryMancunian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I enjoyed the episode, but hoo boy lsd would not act as a flavour enhancer, take hours to kick in, and probably make a good chunk of people feel nauseous.

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 23 points 1 year ago

This is the sort of idea I'd have expected from Jack Donaghy on 30 Rock

[–] atticus88th@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Prompt: "AI, create a soda flavor!"

The response: "Heres a recipe for a soda flavor... 1C corn syrup, 2C carbonated water, 1tsp your choice of food coloring. I could have prefaced this recipe with 10 paragraphs explaining the history of soda littered with browser breaking ads, but I am not a sociopath."

[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Of course an AI would use shitty imperial measurements instead of metric

[–] mojo@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

Chatgpt can be a cool way to generate ideas for flavours. It's ultimately a tool. That means there needs to be someone to actually test, tweak and verify those ideas, which at that point it's no longer AI generated.

[–] ManosTheHandsOfFate@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Surprising no one.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was really hoping this was an article with early sales numbers showing it's a flop. I already assumed it was going to taste bad, that feels like a given to me. I want it to be a failure in sales so this kind of thing stops happening.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will do well in sales initially due to FOMO, but I am guessing it won't last due to it not tasting especially interesting.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That is my assumption as well. That's kind of the trend with most new flavors of soda it seems. Very few actually stick. This one is just so much more obnoxious in origin than most that I want it to die quicker lol.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can't wait until my King Arthur AI-Generated Flour turns out to be a 5 pound bag of uncut cocaine.

[–] Gork@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

"You, too, can lift Excalibur from the stone."

Motto on the cocaine bag

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Aka: “Original Coke”

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Coke Y3000 sounds like it was supposed to be the kind of thing that would be used in a metaverse tie-in promo.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Buy a Y3000 coke and get a copy of it in the Metaverse! First 3000 to redeem the code get a limited-edition T-shirt too because everyone loves to be walking ad space!

[–] theodewere@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

i'm gonna give you marketing geniuses a call when i need a Future Coke..

it'll be in The Future..

[–] CherryRedDragon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ok, but I read that sentence near the beginning as "The massive beverage company has trapped an artificial intelligence to serve as its advisor" and I think it'd be neat if corporations had to patiently lie in wait for an unsuspecting AI to come along and bait it with some tasty data before they can use it.

[–] Smacks@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

You can taste the silicon!

[–] JohnWorks@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 year ago

The flavor tasted like a sprite but with a fruity aftertaste to me. Honestly didn’t know any ai involvement with the drink when I initially got it I just like trying the coke creations flavors. Starlight was still my favorite.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

It's unfortunate too. This is actually my favorite flavor they have released.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think it was a bad flavor, it tasted like if you went to one of these Coke Freestyle machine and mixed a little bit of every flavor of Coca Cola together: A generically sweet, artificial fruity flavor.

The packaging are pretty cool though.

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess they didn't learn from their Coke Classicdebacle.

[–] BolexForSoup@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That was coke trying to mimic pepsi as well as change the flavor of their flagship product. They've made dozens of other flavors before. This is not really like the new coke/coke classic situation tbh

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Was it "cheaper" too? I feel like companies are so predictable its scary

[–] shotgun_crab@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Is it bad that I liked it more than anything else they've done?

[–] reallynotnick@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What Coke offshoots have actually landed? Like Zero, Diet, Cherry, Vanilla and maybe Lemon?

[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're forgetting New Coke, which actually wasn't that bad and I kinda miss it.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I remember New Coke. It was really sweet. I liked it. Then again, I was six, and I liked anything that was sweet, lol.

[–] MooseGas@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I stopped after they got rid of coke clear.

Edit. Sorry that Pepsi crystal. I think that was replaced by Crystal meth.

[–] idiomaddict@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Cinnamon coke was incredible

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I bought some of the Zero Calorie kind this weekend.

My friends and I thought it tasted pretty good, honestly. What I COULDN’T find were full sized cans of it. I wanted to buy a 12 pack, but could only find the little cans in a 10 pack.

That said, one of my friends bought a 20oz of the regular, super sugar kind. And…I didn’t like it as much. The zero calorie one tasted better to me 100%.

[–] boothin@artemis.camp 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think any of the coke creation flavors have been available in the 12oz cans, at least I've never seen any. Only 20oz bottles and the mini cans