What's going on Canada?
🍁 Meta
🗺️ Provinces / Territories
🏙️ Cities / Local Communities
🏒 Sports
Hockey
Football (NFL)
unknownFootball (CFL)
unknownBaseball
unknownBasketball
unknownSoccer
unknown💻 Universities
💵 Finance / Shopping
🗣️ Politics
🍁 Social and Culture
Reminder that the rules for lemmy.ca also apply here. See the sidebar on the homepage:
Love how legalization just has resulted in yet another field for capitalists to lie about their products...
I don't remember a weed dealer not lying about how strong their weed is though, I'd say business as usual
Idk, I knew a dealer who used to say that people exaggerated and that none of his were more than "30%" since anything more than that is a scam, if only because of how fast you can process THC.
The cannabis industry, legal or otherwise, has always been full of lies and pseudoscience. If it's not the big business capitalists, it was the small time dealer capitalists.
When asking for suggestions, budtenders still ask me if I want Indica or Sativa. I always answer, "it doesn't matter." They should know it doesn't matter and not be pushing decades-old debunked info.
We, black market edible producers, categorize our caramels by what they are used for. Our customers then name them. Our big ones right now are Nite Nites and Laffy Taffy. I call them sleepy caramels and party caramels. I ask how much people weigh and how experienced they are and tell them how much I weigh and how much I take then suggest a starting dose and tell them how adjust the dose until they find the right amount for them.
I worked as a budtender and once I learned the truth I tried to share it with customers, but they don't care. For some reason, 'sativa v indica' is easier than "How much thc will get me high". Instead I inquired to their tastes and offered... local first 😎 fuck the Californian goons.
I was also only allowed to share my mind at this one place I worked because they don't give a shit to a different extent. I worked at another company called Inspired and they actively wanted me to peddle product customers didn't want 🤷 only sales numbers mattered.
Cannabis industry sucks. Not to mention minimum wage, so don't actually expect much from them.
Wait differences in effects between those two strains has been debunked? I had no idea. Time to look up research on it
Nah its more mismanaged, an 'indica' strain might not be indica at all.
Its like a bunch of stoners trying to guess what breed a dog is without knowing what a dog is tbh
The "Indica = sleepy/couch-locked; Sativa = energy/head high" belief isn't true. The effects are caused by a complex mix of chemicals that isn't fully understood yet, and few producers talk about. Sativa and Indica have very little, if anything, to do with it. It also doesn't help that the vast majority of strains are hybrids, making the terms even more useless. The terms are just slapped on any strain that is perceived as uplifting or relaxing (edit: or have a genetic mix being majority one or the other).
That which we call Indica, by any other name would smell as sweet is an essay on the origins of indica.
A great example of why appeals to authority have no place in science.
Lol it does matter. I can tell if there is even a hint of indica in weed, because it affects me different than pure sativa. Night and day difference.
Well, when the government fails to adequately regulate, leaving it up to industry to self-report, this is the only foreseeable outcome - for pretty much any industry.
Greed is a massively corrupting influence.
I know that the producers don’t self-report. They’re supposed to contract with testing labs, but when there’s a lack of standardized procedures and oversight, the producers lab-shop until they find a lab that has tweaked their processes in such a way that reports favorably on even substandard goods.
In that way, the labs become facilitators of a flawed regulatory process.
The only real fix is more and better oversight (including verification of results from testing laboratories) and standardization of testing procedures.
Having worked at two Licensed Producers of cannabis, I can tell you that for the entire crop they only need to take one sample, that sample represents the THC level of the entire harvested batch. So of course they cherry pick the best looking samples to send out.
Its a huge problem here in the US. My friend works in a lab that does tests on samples from all over. Their lab is close to shutting down because they dont inflate numbers like the other labs in the state. So the other dispensaries are passing over their lab for other ones that do inflate numbers. Its terrible. Also as someone who grows their own, you can just tell the home grown has way more potency than the highest stuff they sell at a dispensary.
I've always said, when you grow it yourself, you put time and money to grow the best crop you can. When you grow to make money you go for the fastest and cheapest grow.
MMJ is an absolute fucking mess. It's great that we can begin to get past the human rights abuses of the war on drugs, but there's so much work to be done to make it a safe and effective medicine. So much research is lacking. So much documentation is lacking. So much credentialing lacking. CBD potency is plummeting and it's painful. Dispensaries are run by young kids that just think its fun, and they keep recommending me strains that are fucking hell on my anxiety. Give me a damn pharmacist!
Think this problem stems from it being only medical in most places. I have a script in Florida but it's in no way a medical need like it is for your anxiety. So you have this large mix of people just looking to get high legally and also those there for legit pain/anxiety medication.
We need to separate these and give doctors more power to do what's right.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Some critics attribute the disparities to a lack of standardized testing methods and government oversight, saying producers are cherry-picking and processing samples in ways that are not representative of entire batches of pot and the THC contained in the end product.
Health Canada says it is reviewing complaints about inaccurate labels, and in July it launched a data collection program that involves comparing product results to potency claims.
Gord Nichol, president of family-run Saskatchewan producer North 40 Cannabis, said he independently tested 33 competing products, and found the results to be “abysmal,” with only around a fifth meeting “acceptable” variances.
Miguel Martin, CEO of Edmonton-based Aurora Cannabis Inc., agreed that the lack of national sampling protocols has resulted in “variability” in interpretation of the accepted testing methodology.
Health Canada told The Globe that is reviewing complaints made about inaccurate potency labels, and the information received will be used to conduct further compliance monitoring this fiscal year.
“The department is currently working with licence holders to address inspection observations and to ensure that the THC content value displayed on the label is representative of the cannabis product,” Ms. Jarbeau said.
The original article contains 1,152 words, the summary contains 189 words. Saved 84%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
My wife works for a huge cannabis compliance lab. They’re losing so much business because they refuse to risk their license and breach ethics by inflating potency numbers or passing fails on harmful pesticides. Some labs are saying flower is 40%-50% thc. There’s no such thing as flower with that percent. They’ve never seen it. Ever. It’s quite a bummer.
Once legal cannabis meets both the quality and cost of the black market and if the guy who have been buying from since 1966 quits selling, I might try the legal market.
I’ll never stop buying direct from a small time grower.
Me too . I never buy from a legal source . I can get 3.5 grams of shatter for $60 from my supplier. Where the legal source sells it for $55 a gram . I also know some one who works for a weed supplier and was told the weed gets left out and turns moldy and then they just blast it with radiation before packaging it.