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I mean, they could solve it by not making the mandatory successor an ad-laden, AI-infested, personal data harvesting, privacy-nightmare shit show. That would be a start. And also relax whatever the artificial requirement is that makes a lot of Win10 machines incompatible with 11.

Microsoft has a Windows 11 problem. Staying on Windows 10 is a symptom.

I know it's not a hardware compatibility problem. People just don't want ads/tracking/AI bullshit, a removed control panel, settings that are hard to find/hidden, etc.

All intel processor 8th gen+ (and even some 7th gen IIRC) are win11 compatible, motherboard have TPM2 for years, even my intel 6th gen MB have TPM2.0.

Next year the intel 8th gen will have 8 years, people have PC/laptop more recent than that. Problem is that win10 will not get security updates and all.

I'm using MX Linux BTW.

I'm just waiting for the EOL of window 10 to see which of the following will happen:

1. Many PCs will stop getting updates, people don't care
2. Many PCs will be replaced for windows 11
3. Turns out people already have replaced their PCs due to other reasons
4. Microsoft removes the hardware requirements
5. People switch to another OS
6. People just don't buy a home PC anymore
7. ????
8. Profit???

Well fuck Win 11, its a fucking downgrade. At Win 10 EOL I'm going back to linux.

If there was ever a time for valve to push advertising out for the steam deck and steamOS it's now. The final piece of the gaming puzzle is anticheat. If valve gets the proprietary anticheat makers on board then it's all over. Every major hurdle would've been overcome, but games like valorant and call of duty still don't work because of vanguard and ricochet.

With how terrible windows handhelds are, imagine how awesome it would be for those cod players to be able to play a round of warzone on the toilet? I joke, but seriously, that's the demographic that needs to adopt a platform like the steam deck. That's the barrier valve has to overcome, and I'm worried they just don't care or something even more legally gray is happening, like Microsoft giving game devs incentive to use proprietary anticheat or to just not flip that EAC flag in their code.

Many years ago, I attended a Windows XP launch event. The Microsoft presenter had the perfect line to describe how MS views this:
"Why should you upgrade to Windows XP? Because we're going to stop supporting Windows 98!"

This was said completely unironically and with the expectation that people would just do what MS wanted them to do. That attitude hasn't changed in the years since. Win 10 is going to be left behind. You will either upgrade or be vulnerable. Also, MS doesn't care about the home users, they care about the businesses and the money to be had. And businesses will upgrade. They will invariably wait to the last minute and then scramble to get it done. But, whether because they actually give a shit about security or they have to comply with security frameworks (SOX, HIPAA, etc.), they will upgrade. Sure, they will insist on GPOs to disable 90% of the Ads and tracking shit, but they will upgrade.

Three years ago, I bought my wife a laptop with Windows 10 to replace her 10yo windows 7 machine.

It had hardware issues out of the box, and went in on two repairs. It works fine now, AFAIK.

But, she still doesn't trust it, and she doesn't think that she can move her Adobe CS6 license over to it..

I even bought her the affinity suite.

I'm starting to think she'll never move on from Windows 7.

I think the major browsers stopped supporting it sometime during the last year, so my best hope is that some included certificates will eventually make her favourite websites stop working. That has to force her over to something more recent.. right?

I use arch, btw.

The author asks many questions, but never the most important one: "Why don't people like Windows 11?"

Yeah it's convincing people that Windows 11 is actually good

They should be required to release drivers such that massive e-waste wasn't generated suddenly. I mean, why does the government allow a software company to own an monopolize the hardware? Hello Google! Good luck 🤞 with the monopoly assholes!

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If Linux didn't exist, we would actually end up with a lot of e-waste, and I mean a fuck ton of it. And it's all thanks to you, Microsoft.

Hell, Linux does exist, and people just don't wanna use it because they're so used to Windows that anything else is basically as steep of a learning curve as a literal cliff. And to those people I say: "just add some mint on it and life will be easy. Maybe even drizzle some cinnamon on it as well"

Another vote for Linux Mint. I finally switched from Windows 10 months ago and I love it.

I'm really enjoying the learning curve with Linux because I'm not always fighting the operating system. On the other hand, every time I've had to go "under the hood" with Windows (edit the Registry, change config files) it's been to stop Microsoft from doing something sh*tty to me.

hahahahahah does anyone really think microsoft cares? their money is in business with all the big players already deploying 11 at least in modest amounts.

nothing stopped them when windows7 was still functional and they were pushing the tpm requirement, i dont see a difference here.

I stopped following 11 news after they cancelled the native android framework, only thing that got me excited since a BlueStacks installation gets huge extremely fast, I'm not going.

I use Win10 for one single program only and I'm currently testing on how to take that machine offline, but still be accessible locally. So far all I got is a blacklist regex in pihole. Blocking internet access to that machine via my router does not work for me, as I dual boot that machine with Linux for gaming. Tips per DM are very welcome actually.

Imagine a world where we had politicians who understood technology enough to put proper rules and requirements in place, so that big dumb companies would actually be forced to act ethically and sustainably...

That problem is that there isn't a better version (not that it was peak in the first place anyway..)

The only reason I'm on 10 with my main pc is because the 7th gen intel in there isn't compatible with win11. I have another pc that is 7th gen, which I put windows 11 on and there is just something weird about it. When I do anything on that machine it doesn't do it immediately, it sits for a few seconds before actions are done. Really aggravating. Clicking on a program on the taskbar takes a few seconds before it opens. File explorer, firefox browser, settings pane, ... Once programs are running it's fine to use said programs, but I wonder what they did to make it feel this way.

I have Linux on both machines as primary OS and they are super snappy, it's not the hardware.

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The big windows 10 problem is that it updates to windows 11.