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“BD” refers to Franco-Belgian comics, but let's open things up to include ALL Euro comics and GN's. Euro-style work from around the world is also welcome!

* BD = "Bandes dessinées"
* BDT = Bedetheque
* GN = graphic novel
* LBK = Lambiek
* LC = "Ligne claire"

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NOTE: I'm deleting and repurposing the earlier entry, here.
(I don't feel like I got it quite right at the time, so here's this:)

Now, there's sort of a hidden backstory here, in that after I got to the States, and after reading American comics, I became a pretty much long-time, loyal DC/Marvel fan until I noticed that they just... I dunno... kept recycling their content, and kept using their characters as resurrectionist puppets?

For example-- they'd make a huge song & dance about killing off a character, only to later bring them back perfectly intact via whatever bullshit excuse, some issues later? (sometimes even needing to create alternate worlds for them to exist in!)

Point is-- it pretty much hammered home the idea that all these characters were just licensed properties (tm), and not representative of remotely approaching real characters.

Dense as I was, it did become clear as a comics reader that my needs just weren't being met anymore, suggestible teenager as I was. That's roughly around the time that I started exploring American-indie/alt comix, such as Cerebus the Aardvark, Love & Rockets, and several others.

What can I say? I just lost total interest in bullshit fantasy, and got WAY more interested in Euro and Alt / Indie stuff, and in truth, I've rarely looked back.

Now here's the great Dave Cooper:

-----> https://imgur.com/a/dave-coopers-bizzaro-world-super-dumped-xi144QU <-----

EPILOGUE? Uh... I guess just that Euro-comics... at bare minimum, they suggest to me how your day went, and what little (but crazy) challenges you went through that day. That's some real stuff, to me.

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[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They've pretty much turned into stock characters, which isn't necessarily a bad thing in itself, but it does make having a clean timeline pretty much impossible.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean... stock characters go back to... the age of Greek Tragedy, right? And that's cool!

But I mean, either way... there has to be a compelling story, or way of relating, or something that rises us up and connects us, right?

EDIT: I've lightly edited in a clarification, above, hopefully that makes sense.

[–] JohnnyEnzyme@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, and Exhibit B, sometime:

Our family drove up to MontReal when I was around 8yo, and while there, our family-friend gave me some funny picture-albums, "Ma Dalton" and "Asterix au Egypt"....