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[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do your crime in Ottawa, face trial in Ottawa.

This is the way.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

This is the way.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Anber argued a potential jury pool could be prejudiced from β€œthe animosity fomented by local politicians and the media; the formal position of the City of Ottawa; the civil (lawsuit);...

Or the thousands of people who were tortured, harassed, intimidated, threatened, put out of work, and forced to deal human shit all over the street and diesel fumes for weeks?

There is a 100% sure way to assure that you don't get an unfair trial for a crime that you committed. Don't commit the fucking crime

[–] Rocket@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a 100% sure way to assure that you don’t get an unfair trial. Don’t commit the fucking crime

Methinks you have not thought this through. There have been a number of wrongful conviction cases seen over the years. They got an unfair trail without ever having committed the fucking crime.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I always forget about the fucking pedants.

I've updated my statement.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would this be any different than any other crime? Yes, there is generally a preference for trying cases in the community in which the offense occurred, but this wouldn't be the first time that a trial was moved somewhere else in order to improve the chances of an impartial judgement.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The answers you seek are in the article, and the ruling.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm well aware. I was responding to what seems to be your opinion that justice is always best served by keeping the trial in the community in which the offense occurred.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't think you should be able to go to Singapore and commit drug crimes then expect to be tried in Canada and I don't think you should be able to come to Ottawa and torture, harass, threaten, intimidate, and put out of work tens of thousands of citizens then expect to be tried somewhere else.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Singapore is nonsensical, because that's a completely different jurisdiction.

For Ottawa-specific laws, there is probably no real choice but to stay in Ottawa. For provincial and federal laws, there are options. I don't necessarily agree that change of venue should be a given, but it is a commonly accepted means of trying to ensure impartiality. I'm not sure that there is anywhere in Canada where this trial could be conducted without the spectre of bias, but, whether we like it or not, change of venue is one of the tools available.

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

change of venue is one of the tools available.

And it was denied. And I'm good with that.

[–] jadero@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

So am I πŸ˜‰