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I'm still learning the quirks of federation and the behaviors of communities hosted on different instances, so I apologize if this is something that's been asked repeatedly.

I made a post to a community I am subscribed to at lemmy.ca, from my home instance at slrpnk.net. Public posts on that community (as well as the post that I made) are not showing up from my home instance. My profile page on my home instance does not show any record of the post that I made.

I was only able to find existence of the post that I made by going to lemmy.ca, and then finding the community that I posted to from there.

!woodworking@lemmy.ca

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Communities only federate to an instance once someone from the instance has subscribed to the community.

So an hour later, while logged out (in incognito mode) I am seeing your post on https://slrpnk.net/c/woodworking@lemmy.ca and can find it on your home instance directly at https://slrpnk.net/post/14701745 - this is in addition to seeing it on https://lemmy.ca/c/woodworking and directly on the magazine's instance at https://lemmy.ca/post/31909201

Also, the post likewise shows up for me when I view your profile on either your home instance at https://slrpnk.net/u/technomad or on the magazine's instance at https://lemmy.ca/u/technomad@slrpnk.net (and again, that's logged out and in incognito mode).

Finally, I see your post on lemmy.world in the same three places - the magazine https://lemmy.world/c/woodworking@lemmy.ca , your profile https://lemmy.world/u/technomad@slrpnk.net , and the direct post itself https://lemmy.world/post/21403325

Sometimes posts from lemmy.world take up to three days to federate to my instance, so an hour isn't too bad really.

[–] u_u@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

If this is about your post in !woodworking@lemmy.ca, I can see it just fine by checking the post history from your profile. I'm using Voyager.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yes it is. That's interesting, it's still not showing up on my profile for me.

Also checked on Voyager, nothing.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That community only accepts posts in 'undermined' language, so if you aren't seeing anything from there, but you can when you log out (to simulate everyone else's view of it), then it's probably a user setting that prevents you from seeing stuff from that language. If you go to the 'collapse' community and posts by 'Midnight' are missing, then it'll be that (similarly there's a comment here from 'originallucifer' - if you haven't seen it, it's 'cos of the language thing).

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Awesome, logging out (switching to 'guest') made everything show up from my home instance.

I am/was able to see the comment from originalucifer, however, from before I logged out.

I am able to see posts from 'Midnight' on the 'collapse...' community when logged in.

[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

Interesting. Funnily enough, my comments are coming through to Lemmy as 'Undermined' too (just a PieFed bug, easily fixed), so the fact that you saw it (as well as the comments by the others I mentioned) means it's not a language thing. That's good, in a way, because it should be physically impossible to actually de-select it.

So, sorry - at least we can rule one thing out, but I don't have any more suggestions.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It is on your profile. Do you have "Undetermined" selected in your language settings?

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The language settings are set to auto.

I'm using the Photon frontend if it helps.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

The auto-setting is about what the language the frontend uses, what Blaze meant is the language visibility setting in your profile.

Edit: hmm, I can't actually find that setting in Photon, but what ever you set it in the classic lemmy-ui might still effect visibility on Photon.

Edit: https://slrpnk.net/post/14775569

[–] Xylight@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I need to add language settings to communities and profiles. I really dislike how lemmy handles this though.

If you change it in lemmy-ui, it will propagate to Photon because it's an account wide setting.

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

Ah, so that confirms my suspicion that is propagates from lemmy-ui, thanks.

I agree that the way this is currently handled in lemmy-ui is really bad, but I am not sure how to do it better either. At the very least "undetermined" should probably always enabled and not possible to accidentally unselect.

[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I'm wondering too. /u/technomad@slrpnk.net was it the woodworking one?

[–] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 2 points 6 days ago

I believe to ping someone, you need to put an @ symbol before their name instead of /u/. Depending on how you're interacting with Lemmy (web or app) it should provide some means of auto completing the ping.

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Curious, did you get a long from my mention or did I format it wrong?

[–] technomad@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 days ago

No, I didn't get any notification from your original ping attempt.

sounds like an issue with your local instance. federation seems to work, as you imply the post shows in the remote community.

i have seen that behavior before with database/process issues causing the local post not to show despite it being successfully sent to the remote.

[–] Alice@hilariouschaos.com 1 points 6 days ago

You have to make an account on other instances and then add that community while logged into other instances

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How long did you wait? Sometimes it takes some time for things to get federated.

As long as someone is subscribed to it from your home instance, it should get there, though.

Edit: A word