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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Actually all higher primates do capitalism. Bonobos pay with food for sex, Chipanzees pay with support for a higher rank, Orangs pay with food for other orangs making them a bad out of leaves. I suggest to read Barterverse: Galactic Economics 1: Happy Existence

[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately this is false. They've tested this and monkeys establish captilasm extremely fast when they come to understand currency as a concept.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.1086/503550

They would exchange the currency, steal it, gamble with it, purchase with it, and even do some prostitution for it.

Edit: To people responding that this isnt capitalism, it actually is, in this case the privatized controller of wealth were the researchers distributing "payment" to the monkeys at a fixed rate, as well as having experiments where the monkeys had to pull levers before they would receive rewards either to themselves or later, altruistically to other monkeys.

You would know that if you took the time to read up on the study before responding...

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's not capitalism, that's just a market.

It's only capitalism when one monkey owns the means of production and starts paying another money a wage while taking the wealth they produce.

It would be really interesting if the scientists gave all of the monkeys a huge supply of walnuts, and one of the monkeys a tool to open walnuts. Would the monkey share the tool when it was finished opening walnuts? Charge the other monkeys to use the tool? Would the other monkeys beat the shit out of them and share it?

[–] Crass_Spektakel@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Orangs do that. One Orang is collecting food and giving to to another Orang building a bed from leaves.

Why? Because the first Orang is better at collecting food and the second at building beds.