Welcome to the Unpopular Opinion community!
How voting works:
Vote the opposite of the norm.
If you agree that the opinion is unpopular give it an arrow up. If it's something that's widely accepted, give it an arrow down.
Guidelines:
Tag your post, if possible (not required)
Rules:
1. NO POLITICS
Politics is everywhere. Let's make this about [general] and [lemmy] - specific topics, and keep politics out of it.
2. Be civil.
Disagreements happen, but that doesn’t provide the right to personally attack others. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Please also refrain from gatekeeping others' opinions.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Shitposts and memes are allowed but...
Only until they prove to be a problem. They can and will be removed at moderator discretion.
5. No trolling.
This shouldn't need an explanation. If your post or comment is made just to get a rise with no real value, it will be removed. You do this too often, you will get a vacation to touch grass, away from this community for 1 or more days. Repeat offenses will result in a perma-ban.
Instance-wide rules always apply. https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/
One instance explained to me that they disabled downvoting because of massive brigading issues due to what they are and what they stand for. I had assumed that everyone over there was just fragile… but apparently it’s a real issue for them folk and that had never occurred to me before.
It doesn't take a lot of effort for a few shitty folks to silence people they hate by quickly down voting anything that comes from a small instance. While the instance that I know of disabled the downvotes to improve the experience for users of their instance, I don't see their stuff in the All feed very often so they are probably still being silenced outside their instance.
I heard something similar a while back. They were able to ID patterns of some accounts just essentially doing downvoting and that's it.
I am not sure what the goal is.
I understand getting upset if you made a good faith argument and it gets a ton of downvotes. I still think it's valid, but I understand why others would disagree.
But people here (and on Reddit) are way too sensitive to them. I have seen too many comments here with "Edit: why am I getting downvoted? Explain yourselves" when it's got 10 upvotes and 2 downvotes.
Some trolls downvote everything. Some people have bots that downvote everything. Some people have bad reading comprehension and will downvote things they would agree with. Once you assume a baseline level of negativity you'll stop taking things personally and start enjoying interactions more.
Some people have bad reading comprehension and will downvote things they would agree with.
Some?
lol
I disagree but my instance has downvotes disabled so i can't downvote you like you've requested :p
I got free Unlimited pure true downvotes on my instance.🫂
[FreeBSD approved virtual hug, No homo]
Or perhaps just let people disabled downvotes if they don’t like them :). I’m not hurting you, in fact, I can only upvote.
I don’t like the fact niche hobbyist communities on lemmy often have half their posts downvoted because people saw it on c/all and downvoted for no reason.
I think upvoting and downvoting should remain a feature for sorting posts, but the scores shouldn’t be visible to anyone. Making scores public encourages people to say what’s popular and discourages them from expressing unpopular opinions, even if they believe them to be true. Humans are social creatures, and we care too much about what others think. If you agree or disagree with someone and want them to know, you should tell them directly rather than anonymously ranking them.
Downvotes bother me because they impact the visibility of my content, especially on small communities
THIS is the reason.
Downvoting is literally a form of censorship. It's the virtual equivalent of shouting someone down.
Yeah but if bots are not used and people feel like downvoting it is fair.
Some hot takes deserve to be downvoted at least person gets the idea that opinion is in fact unpopular.
It does get problematic where people down vote in bad faith ie a verifiable fact is provided that they don't like. Which does happen a lot on here and reddit. People care more about their politcal narrative over fact based analysis.
I sort by Top Daily.
That means that whatever downvotes you will get, I could still see your post.
I am sure that I am not the only one who does this as I first learned of this option on another social media website called Tildes by a user comment and since then it had become the default for me in all the social media websites I use.
If I only get 1 upvote and 2 downvotes, my post would get buried for everyone and you would probably never see it
You can also just stop careing about other peoples opinions in general, 99% of humans suck.
Bonerman is out here asking for 99% of humans to suck him! What a day!
If I had a magic wand I'd make the world suck my dick without a condom on while I'm on the john
We’re as free to stop caring about what other people think as we are to stop enjoying the taste of sugar. It’s not impossible, but it’s incredibly difficult. For most of human history, being disliked or ostracized by those around you often meant death. You don’t just wake up one day and decide to override such a deeply ingrained instinct.
You are less free to not consume sugar as its pushed into everything, you can ignore other peoples opinions.
You just entirely ignored my argument.
Exactly
You can get ignore other peasant opinion to some degree.
You can't ignore the opinion of the owner class or their regime whores as they will impose it upon you at the barrel of a gun if needed.
I agree with the sentiment thought normies worry too much about what "Joneses" think which owners love it use to market slop to them.
I can.
the little engine?
I think your name should be written on toilet paper.
somebody is prickly today
PieFed also just shows one number.
It's human nature for people to feel upset by their message being undermined.....but they should be able to get over it.
The bigger problem I have is that the downvoters don't know how to USE downvotes. Instead of downvoting inaccurate content or engaging in any reasoning, people just downvote what they personally don't like and disagree with. Which is bullshit.
If you're bothered by social media votes, you need to go outside more.
Social media isn't real. It's a poor simulacrum of human interaction. Find real human beings to interact with and whatever they think of you, tell you, or how they treat you in your face matters.
But whatever people become and how they behave once they hide behind a screen and cast simplistic one-bit click-clicks to express complex human feelings and opinions doesn't.
Downvoting is intolerance made cheap. It's a button to say: "You're wrong, I don't care what you have to say, LA LA LA LA SHUT UP". If you did the equivalent of downvoting in an in-person discussion, you would be an asshole.
But what really annoys me personally (someone else mentions it) is that downvoting reduces the visibility of the downvoted opinion. It's literally soft censorship.
I regularly leave discussions after receiving cheap downvotes in return for my carefully considered contribution. It's a statistical certainty that I'm not the only one.
Downvoters should consider the opportunity cost of their actions for the quality of the discussion they are taking part in.
I tend to downvote obnoxious comments, or ones that it’s clear the commenter is in love with the ‘sound’ of their own voice. I tend to leave the ‘carefully considered’ ones alone because they add to the conversation unless they stray too far into the above categories.
Interesting. Of course, "obnoxious" and "in love with their own voice" are highly personal judgements that are pretty vulnerable to motivated reasoning. In other words: if they were making a point that you happened to agree with, perhaps you wouldn't think those things.
I definitely see where you’re coming from. At the same time I don’t tend to get involved in deep discussions where I have strong feelings, on the Internet. I save those for in-person with friends.
I guess I am just very sensitive to tone and (what comes across to me as) arrogant people, and I have downvoted obnoxious comments on all sides of an argument before. I try to be aware of my bias, but nobody’s perfect.
Of course YMMV, but I find blocking people like that (especially on Discord) make my Internet experience much more pleasant.
Downvotes are disabled
Create a browser extension like return YouTube dislike, but for Lemmy.
Pay someone to downvote my post.
Get outside your house at night and scream "I hate you Joker!", hopefully the local news will cover it and then I would hear it and I would know that was you.
Fourth option.
I admit to posting shitty comments sometimes, just because I feel some adversity is nice. Lemmy seems pretty uniform, politically. That just annoys me. So I get a fair share of downvotes. In general, I don't take online discussions in comment sections too seriously, though. I mean, you can't expect people there to actually research and listen to arguments. It mostly seems like emotional venting/searching for confirmation of your bias to me.
Sounds more like you're an asshole that hides behind the excuse of devils advocate to say shitty things