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I have an old notebook which I've been toying with a few smaller distros on (typically easy to install, liveCD types), and while I enjoy the tinkering aspects of this, I had a thought that I've been mulling.

In the past I've run distributions based on larger, better supported, systems (Ubuntu, Debian, Arch, etc.) and if or when they have folded, like crunchbang did, or PeppermintOS (however briefly), I just changed them out.

However, if I were to go back to peppermintOS, say, would it be feasible to 'convert' the system to the parent distribution? So, could I force peppermintOS to 'become' Debian, for example? Or is this overly simplistic? It's a level of engagement with my operating systems that I just haven't had!

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[–] Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The problem with package based distros (everything non-immutable) is, that a distro is very complex.

Even if you manage to "swap out" the package repositories, you usually still have a lot of remaining stuff in the background and many things tweaked by the maintainers. It's a huge mess.

In theory, you could absolutely do that, but to be honest, why bother? You already always should have a backup of all your personal data, so why not reinstall it cleanly?


Speaking of image based distros ("immutable"), the cool thing about most is that that you can easily swap out the underlying OS with just one command.

For example, you can always rebase from Fedora Silverblue to Kinoite to Bazzite to something with Hyprland and then back to vanilla Silverblue, without any traces.

So, for example, if the guy who makes your custom image on Github stops maintaining it, you can simply switch to something else in just seconds.

Maybe this is something relevant for you :)

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 4 hours ago

Tiny vocab tip: “Non-immutable” is actually just called “mutable”.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

It may just be a pre-configured Debian in which case there will be nothing to convert or it may have several additional repositories in which case it will be easier to install the new one.

[–] ALiteralCabbage@feddit.uk 2 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

So if there's additional repositories does that mean that there is likely to be core functionality which would be broken if it stops being maintained?

[–] eldavi@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

check the distro's changelist to find something like that since not all downstream distros are the same; some are more modified than others from their base.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 hours ago

Again it depends on what those repositories do.

EndeavourOS (Arch based) adds a repository which appears to be for their utilities, otherwise they use the Arch repositories. You could probably continue using it with minimal disruption although the utilities would be unmaintained.

Manjaro (also Arch based) uses its own mirrors of the Arch repositories and adds some of its own. If it vanished, it would quickly become out of date and full of security holes. A new install would be necessary.

In either case, I'd do a clean install of Arch because why give yourself the headache.

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 5 points 7 hours ago

Well, it's possible, but I don't think it's feasible... If you want another distro, it's easier if you format your pc with the distro you want