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A Boring Dystopia

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[–] atro_city@fedia.io 38 points 14 hours ago (20 children)

How are people going to be selected for deportation? This feels eerily like what Hitler started doing with Jews.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Well there's this handy color wheel...

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 13 points 13 hours ago

The NAZIs made Germany a slave labor nation-state.

That is what is happening here.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 19 points 13 hours ago

Trump thinks that the best way to avoid the last of the NY state trial is to create chaos and violence until we cry uncle.

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 85 points 18 hours ago (9 children)

Drive through rural America and see how many underpopulated small towns there are. Shuttered businesses for lack of customers. Abandoned buildings. These places need people.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

The east coast is densely populated. California and large areas of the west coast is densely populated.

But Ohio to the Rockies? Uhhhh......there's corn. We got corn. Do you like corn?

Yeah. There's a reason nobody can name anything in Nebraska. Nobodys ever been there. Not even sure they have corn there.

[–] TehWorld@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

The east coast has more big cities than those other places, but there are still. HUGE number of teeny-tiny dying towns all up and down the eastern seaboard.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 12 hours ago

Don't worry. This isn't the only Trump plan that will tank the economy. I just wish the rest of us didn't have to suffer because of all those idiots not paying attention.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but they don’t want those people. Now who are those people they don’t want? Brown people, black people, queer people, woke people, educated people, different people…

[–] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (2 children)

It's kind of wild to me how many really small towns there are in the US. About 32% of towns in the U.S. have less than 500 residents.

For comparison, here in Brazil I lived most of my life in a town with ~35K residents and it was already considered a small rural town. Some of my family lives in a neighboring town with ~11K residents, and even in my hometown people joke about how small it is, and that there's basically nothing going on there. 1288 of towns in Brazil have less than 5K residents, or about 23.1%, and there are no towns with less than 500 residents. Meanwhile in the US 76% of towns have less than 5K residents.

Again, it's just kind of wild to me. I remember playing (reading?) the Echo VN and thinking "Man, a dying town with only 50 people? That doesn't sound realistic," but apparently that's way more common than I thought.

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 29 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

My slightly educated guess would be that's a consequence of America's race westward in the 1800's, only stopping long enough to annihilate the indigenous population and set up a rest stop for the next batch.

[–] Podunk@lemmy.world 22 points 12 hours ago

Railroads played big role. Trains needed more water or coal to run the engine. So every 15 to 20 miles or so, depending on terrain, a water depot was erected, and there a new town popped up. Some survived. Some didnt. Few are thriving. Just pull up a map and follow a rail line in the great plains region of the usa. Then just measure it out. Its impossible to miss once you notice it.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

It’s more modern than that. I don’t have time to look for stats, but I believe there’s been general migration to cities for like half a century or more

[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Of course, but I'm talking about why all these little towns existed in the first place. It's not like they were all bustling metropolises before everyone left. ;)

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[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago

We also have "towns" that are insufficient in size and unlisted or are under another towns "address". A town near me has less than 1000 people and that includes the towns under it that are 3-5mi apart.

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[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 78 points 19 hours ago (19 children)

We tried this before and it sucked then, too.

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 61 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah, we definitely need less people in this country. I’m sure it’ll help fill all the job vacancies and increase productivity and GDP.

I will make sure to bring this up when any republicans complain that are so many vacancies because no one wants to work anymore.

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 24 points 17 hours ago

Lebensraum.

It doesn't need to be a real problem, for them to make it one.

The immigrant work force will still be there, they'll just be put in camps and forced to work for nothing, while white working class people are sold the idea of "claiming back" "their" land, while the capitalists take it all over in their name (and never share any of the profits or benefits, of course, with a new scapegoat as for why as they need it).

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 10 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Strictly speaking of productivity without justifying Trump's plan in any way - labor shortage increases productivity. Cheap labor decreases productivity. Expensive labor forces capitalists to invest in new equipment and training to be able to produce the same output with fewer labor hours. Simple example - fastening the same number of bolts using manual screwdrivers in more hands vs electric screwdrivers in fewer hands.

Outside of that, removing a significant portion of the population at any one time would be significantly disruptive in many regards.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 31 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

This move actually makes zero fucking sense. Having people in our country who are willing to work less money than the average citizen labor costs are low. That basically means more money for him and his oligarch buddies.

He's already won the election. He doesn't have to keep posturing like this. And he's not going to be elected again, so either he (hopefully) has no third term, or he'll prevent the 2028 elections from being free and fair.

My prediction is that nothing will actually come of this and he's saying this to keep his approval rating high.

Either that or he's even more racist than he is greedy and self-centered

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

if it doesn't make sense, change your perspective.

why would a leader with strong ties to one of the nations strongest enemies want to damage or destroy the economy and the will of the people?

🤔

[–] ShareMySims@sh.itjust.works 42 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

He’s already won the election. He doesn’t have to keep posturing like this.

That was never his end goal, and you're naive to think otherwise.

As for the rest, you're missing a key step - to get them all "deported", first they need to be rounded up, and put in camps (we already past this point a while back), and then since they're already in camps, they might as well be put to work. For free (another point we've past). When they start dying off in big enough numbers for it to affect production, there will be another group marked for "deportation" and rounded up for their turn.

This isn't fascism's first fucking rodeo, and it isn't only now getting started, it has been in motion for a good while now.

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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 34 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Nothing cheaper than using the military, no siree. What's the going rate for toilet seats at the Pentagon these days?

[–] noxy@yiffit.net 4 points 11 hours ago

$30k, about 50% more than hammers

tho that's in 1996 dollars

[–] yesman@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The whole toilet seat thing is as misunderstood. If the Air force needs a new toilet seat for one of it's jets, and that jet isn't in production anymore, and you can't just go to homedepot for aircraft parts, then you have to order a bespoke seat.

Now setting up the tooling for an injection molded plastic seat, only to produce a limited run, maybe in the dozens, $10,000 per seat is a reasonable price.

I'm sure the Pentagon buys toilet seats at the regular price. The interesting thing about Pentagon bathrooms is that it has double the number it needs because of segregation.

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